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Postby riffraff11235 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:25 pm

View Original PostTrajan wrote:Still waiting for earwax flavor...

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Postby UrsusArctos » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:51 pm

View Original PostTrajan wrote:Still waiting for earwax flavor...


At least there won't be a vomit flavor! :lol:
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:53 pm

You realize that they're called "Bertie Bott's EVERY flavored beans", right?

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Postby Dataprime » Wed Nov 13, 2013 2:43 pm

At $142.4 Million, Triptych Is the Most Expensive Artwork Ever Sold at an Auction

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[url]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/13/arts/design/bacons-study-of-freud-sells-for-more-than-142-million.html?_r=0[/url]

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Postby Justacrazyguy » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:21 pm

Wow, just look at that beatiful... that beatiful... What the hell is that? Ugh, the hate I feel for the art movements started in the early 20th century can´t be measured. Art? HA!

Oh, if only I had 142 million dollars...
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:24 pm

Two Swedish women invent wearable airbags.

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Postby soul.assassin » Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:30 am

Batman bin Suparman arrested by Singaporean authorities.

http://www.news.com.au/world/batman-bin-suparman-jailed-in-singapore-for-theft-housebreaking-and-drug-offences/story-fndir2ev-1226757719059

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Postby arkiel » Thu Nov 14, 2013 5:52 pm

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20131114/09561525242/google-gets-total-victory-over-authors-guild-book-scanning-is-fair-use.shtml

Triumph for fair use. By which I mean this was a really obvious decision that was likely to be set aside in settlement. Now we need the Viacom/Youtube thing to implode and we'll be all set.

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Postby Chuckman » Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:51 pm

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/11/christof-koch-panpsychism-consciousness/

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Postby Xard » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:16 pm

So, decades old theories with same old insurmounted problems get drummed up by Wired because some neuroscientist stumbled upon some of the literature and treats it as something of a breakthrough? Pfffft. Panpsychism in these sort of guises is nothing new in contemporary discussion and no version has managed to plausibly explain the emergence and deal with the problems - not least of which seems to be that pansychism is more of a label for the problem than solution to the mind-body problem. Giulio Tononi's Integrated Information Theory offers nothing new or noteworthy.

At times like this I wish mainstream media wasn't so fucking uneducated about subjects such as these but I guess this is a feeling one gets whenever mass media writes on specialist subject you're more familiar with than the most.


As for internet: as computationalist models of mind in general (whether physicalist or panpsychist or property dualist) seem utterly hopeless for variety of well-known reasons in the field (such as indeterminancy issue inherent in all processes physical) I wouldn't give too much weight for the idea, even if it makes for some fun science fiction fodder.


Well, this post is pretty negative. Okay, I guess it's cool some less well-known yet seriously taken ideas like this gets mentioned in the media but anyone with passing familiarity with philosophy of mind and consciousness debates of our time would know there's nothing new here. Also:


Christof Koch: I grew up Roman Catholic, and also grew up with a dog. And what bothered me was the idea that, while humans had souls and could go to heaven, dogs were not suppose to have souls. Intuitively I felt that either humans and animals alike had souls, or none did. Then I encountered Buddhism, with its emphasis on the universal nature of the conscious mind. You find this idea in philosophy, too, espoused by Plato and Spinoza and Schopenhauer, that psyche — consciousness — is everywhere. I find that to be the most satisfying explanation for the universe, for three reasons: biological, metaphysical and computational.


This misdescribes at least Plato and Spinoza pretty badly. I'm inclined to say same about Schopenhauer and Buddhist thought at its most nuanced and abstract but I'd need to reread few things before I say that.

As for Roman Catholic dogma of souls it does not really mean animals don't have conscious experiences, especially since Thomism still is the official Catholic philosophy AFAIK. True, they lack rational first-mover selves that may survive past death humans have but this does not mean they're necessarily unconscious robots.
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Postby A.T. Fish » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:38 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/11/christof-koch-panpsychism-consciousness/

Is the Internet conscious?


Koch wrote:it feels like something to be the internet


Lain? In "the wired"? :chuckles:

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Postby Xard » Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:53 pm

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Postby UrsusArctos » Fri Nov 15, 2013 8:39 pm

The one-child policy is actually not literally one child - the areas where it really applies are urban areas. In other places, it's actually one child and conditionally two and rural areas usually have two children (minorities are allowed up to three or four). Not as simple as it sounds. Anyway, that's just a minor conditional change and that won't change the enormous damage that has already been done, or the millions of baby girls gotten rid of for the sake of the policy. It's too little, too late.
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Postby drinian » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:02 pm

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:the millions of baby girls gotten rid of for the sake of the policy..

If it were only the one-child policy causing this, why isn't female infanticide and selective abortion lower in rural areas of India, where there is no family-planning policy?

But, yes, it is disturbing to read that in the old rules, rural families were allowed to have a second child -- as long as the first one was a daughter.

This isn't something that's popular to say in public, but I can certainly understand the need for population-control policies when there are limited resources available. We're lucky in the rest of the world that it seems as if population growth rate slows as quality of life improves.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:10 pm

That's because India and China both have a tremendous emphasis on male children. The one-child policy made it that much easier - or should I say - that much more imperative to kill girls en masse(The Chinese, like Indians, saw girls as a huge economic burden and essentially 'worthless' and given the chance to get rid of then, took it). Someone did a study on the rate of female foeticide and infanticide and it turns out that social and economic changes in both rural India and rural China are leading to the eradication of girls. It's horrific and disgusting whatever which way you cut it.
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Postby UrsusArctos » Fri Nov 15, 2013 9:37 pm

Whoops, I zapped Lavinius' post in this thread while trying to quote from it! -o-;

Lest you think that India and China are thriving hives of misogyny, let me point out that less murderous but equally perverse forms of misogyny happen in the "developed" west. This isn't the thread to talk about misogyny, so you might as well talk about it in the gender roles thread.
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Postby Chuckman » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:59 am

Denver has deployed a new police technology to capture dangerous and elusive criminals:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/denver-cops-use-smell-oscope-sniff-pot-smokers/
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Postby Ænimal » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:11 am

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Postby child of Lilith » Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:29 am

View Original PostChuckman wrote:Denver has deployed a new police technology to capture dangerous and elusive criminals:

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/denver-cops-use-smell-oscope-sniff-pot-smokers/
They couldn't keep it illegal so now they'll just fine everyone into the ground? Scum.
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Postby soul.assassin » Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:16 am

There was indeed a God after all.

http://www.asianjunkie.com/2013/11/k-media-outlets-preparing-1-million-lawsuit-against-allkpop-for-copyright-infringement-according-to-reports/

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