The latter. From what I gathered from your post he likes to convey similar themes throughout his stuff. Early Anno sounds aight though, which is good because Gunbuster's on my incredibly long backlog too.
oh boy, if I managed to give impression Kare Kano is some sort of angst fest I fucked up really bad. It's anything but and whatever angst is present comes from the original manga (as said Anno was interested in the comedy at expense of romance drama which was the cause of conflict with mangaka in the first place), not from Anno. Most of the drama and darker parts are notably in tune with many of Eva's points of concern but fundamentally they remain the kind of elements common to shoujo romance. They're not any "harsher" than that. The closest exception would be Arima's backstory that's pretty Eva as is but romance shows are romance shows and KK's bent is overwhelmingly positive with Yukino and Arima discovering their true selves through the relationship, Yukino gaining friends for first time in her life etc.
The finale too is positively life affirming - and I don't mean in the EoE oh-god-my-mind-is-full-of-fuck-but-this-was-not-bad-end-I-guess way but more in the omedetou way.
I mean, the show more often than not looks like this:
I don't really see Kare Kano triggering any existential crisis. Sure, Anno certainly has his pet themes and ideas he's been working on since Gunbuster (and in another gear in whole NGE and post-eva period, Shiki Jitsu is closest thing to sequel to Eva we can get...and it has notably "happy" ending to boot) but I don't think any of that is truly troubling. Or if I want to play safe I might put Love & Pop and Shiki Jitsu offlimits but Kare Kano is as harmless as Anno's Cutey Honey live action feature.
I ended up discussing Kare Kano's final stretch so much because that was genuinely revelatory experience this time around. In general it is really bad thing for series to leave story points or character arcs unfinished - unless this is explicitly the point
. Which is, ultimately, the point in Kare Kano's final act. It was very interesting experience and showed Anno pulling one over the mangaka in the end regardless. Even if he couldn't do his original ending he presented the manga material in such a way it might as well end there.
Of course those hoping to know what happens with the cast afterwards need to continue reading manga but to be frank anime ending when it did the way it did was (anime original end discounted) the best option because Kare Kano starts to go straight to Twilightesque hell of horrid drama and retardation pretty soon after the point anime ends. I never finished reading the manga but the ending seems to be true clusterfuck to boot. So in this regard too I don't really mind anime leaving things unfinished in many respects.
Giji Shinka wrote:
-Deep, great and hardcore anime's. (No mainstream anime's pls. Something that are easily overlooked by the masses)
Boku no Pico and Bible Black fit the bill if you're seriously asking this unironically.
Final Messenger wrote:
oh they did welp time to get rid of my commie subs for that
Well, yeah. The scene that explicates the core of Ranka's character/the depth of Frontier's Zero connection was fucked beyond belief with out of nowhere lines about "souls in everything" and non-sequitur dialogue like this:
sorry, not even Kawamori was on enough drugs for this sort of dialogue
Central Anime at least gets it right:
It's the kind of translation error even I can spot the moment I actually hear the dialogue which would be shocking if Commie hadn't been approaching Hadena tier of shit subs during past few years.
Central Anime has its own awkwardness in choosing to translate kaze o michibiki te/hand that guides the wind aka the priestess position from Macross Zero as "Wind Master" which sounds like heavy metal song more than anything
but at least they don't make mistakes per se.
There are other, more minor faults in Commie's translation that alternate between midly annoying and obstrusive but thankfully complete, meaning-altering fuck ups are limited to dialogue in that scene. Central Anime subs are all around the better option, too bad about shitty yellow text.
caragnafog dog wrote:
space operafags: the macross viewing order is
Macross + OVAs
Help me out.
The viewing order for Macross is
SDF Macross: Do You Remember Love?
Macross Flash Back 2012
Macross Plus OVA
Macross Plus Film
Macross 7 encore
Macross 7: Galaxy Is Calling Me!
Macross Dynamite 7
Macross Frontier: Itsuwari no Utahime
Macross Frontier: Nyan Clip Music Collection
Macross Frontier: Sayonara no Tsubasa
Macross FB7: Ore no Uta wo Kike!
SDF Macross is the original television series. DYRL is feature retelling of SDF Macross, in particular story in episodes 1-27. Macross Flash Back 2012 is a "music video collection" that animates the intended final scenes for SDFM but DYRL which were cut for time and budgetary concerns. It isn't essential per se, especially since pretty much all releases of DYRL you can hope to find today has re-edited the 2012 footage into ending credits of film, but it is a nice ride to sunset for the cast and tribute to Minmay. Plus even if half of new footage comes default with all modern releases of DYRL this is the only place to see launch of Megaroad-01. The inbetween material between the two new setpieces consists of music videos edited together from SDFM+DYRL footage in pretty creative ways so actual "storyline" is formed.
Macross Plus OVA and Film are largerly identical. Plus was scripted and budgeted as film in the first place (thus the film version is actually the "original" despite coming out later) but it was released in 4 episode OVA format for promotion purposes first. The OVA runs longer than the film (they had to add scenes etc. for OVA of course) but on the other hand the film has definitive ending scene. Largerly the differences are cosmetic and both are excellent. 'Sides, Plus is kind of anime you appreciate the best on second viewing anyway so watching both is natural way to proceed anyway.
Macross 7 encore and the Galaxy is Calling me "film" take place during the television series episode 38-42 or so so they're not really sequels to series but yet more episodic "side stories". Dynamite 7 is the sequel to Macrosos 7 tv series though its story stand alone.
Zero is standalone OVA and first entry in terms of chronology
Macross Frontier tv series forms one continuity with two-part retelling Utahime/Sayonara forming DYRL mk. II. Utahime sticks pretty close to tv series with hints of greater changes in the setup while Sayonara ends up being almost 100% original story. Nyan Clip is essentially Frontier's answer to Flash Back 2012. It's music video & fake ranka/sheryl interview collection you can check out any time after Utahime but I recommend watching it between Utahime and Sayonara. It's really inessential though, even moreso than Flash Back 2012 so you can consider it skippable omake. Not saying it isn't good (it is) but apart from Diamond Crevasse PV that gets played in Sayonara it has no direct connection to either film or series stories.
Macross FB7 is the recent Frontier-7 crossover if one wants to be generous in description. In practice it's Macross 7 compilation film with Frontier connection as commercial hook and pretty cool ending sequence. Not really essential either but if you've already seen anything else, want more and don't get physically ill by Macross 7 it may be worth a watch.