Camrip/BDRip & FanSub Status Thread

Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition").
The third installment debuted in Japan on November 17, 2012.

Moderators: New Moderators, Board Staff

riffraff11235
Seed
Seed
User avatar
Age: 26
Posts: 3962
Joined: Jul 19, 2012
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby riffraff11235 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:50 am

Just noticed that UTW used a lossless audio codec (FLAC) for their 1080p release and a lossy audio codec (AAC) for the 720p release. Was this done just to get the encoding done faster?
だから みんな 死んでしまえば いいのに... では, あなたは何故, ココにいるの? ...ココにいても, いいの?
"Cogito ergo sum." - Rene Descartes
"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they quit playing." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
Avatar: Asuka is superior. That is all.
PSN - riffraff-11235 Feel free to add me. PM me on EGF if you do.
Steam - rifffraff11235

League of Legends - riffraff11235
Osu! - riffraff11235

Removal
Embryo
User avatar
Age: 25
Posts: 17
Joined: Jun 19, 2012
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Removal » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:53 am

Most likely, as FLAC is a lot more dense than AAC in terms of encoding.
Speaking of which, has anyone tried to watch the 1080p on a blu-ray player approved for playback of video files? I'm waiting for my dl to finish and I was wondering if anyone has tried it. I have a Panasonic that is able to play .mkv's, and I believe it can handle FLAC as well.
They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

riffraff11235
Seed
Seed
User avatar
Age: 26
Posts: 3962
Joined: Jul 19, 2012
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby riffraff11235 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 11:58 am

View Original PostRemoval wrote:Most likely, as FLAC is a lot more dense than AAC in terms of encoding.

Is there much of an audible difference between the two codecs?
だから みんな 死んでしまえば いいのに... では, あなたは何故, ココにいるの? ...ココにいても, いいの?
"Cogito ergo sum." - Rene Descartes
"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they quit playing." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
Avatar: Asuka is superior. That is all.
PSN - riffraff-11235 Feel free to add me. PM me on EGF if you do.
Steam - rifffraff11235

League of Legends - riffraff11235
Osu! - riffraff11235

Reichu
Space-Time Teratoma
Space-Time Teratoma
User avatar
Posts: 23565
Joined: Aug 21, 2004
Location: Lost in Bat Country
Gender: Female
Contact:

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Reichu » Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:02 pm

View Original PostOenara wrote:Reichu, is this still a spoiler-free thread? I don't think that ^ or the [censored] that you mentioned earlier were in the promos.

Oh... Uh... :crucifies self and hastily edits:

Operation US is safe. It's from the sneak peak.

Removal
Embryo
User avatar
Age: 25
Posts: 17
Joined: Jun 19, 2012
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Removal » Sun Apr 28, 2013 12:27 pm

View Original Postriffraff11235 wrote:Is there much of an audible difference between the two codecs?


Not to the extremely untrained ear. FLAC is audio perfection, completely lossless. AAC is about 256 kbps. There is only a difference really in the audio range, where FLAC goes up to 22kHz and AAC cuts off at about 20. So, tl;dr, no, there's not really an audible difference.
They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

JB2448
Embryo
User avatar
Age: 24
Posts: 36
Joined: Jun 05, 2011
Gender: Male
Contact:

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby JB2448 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:04 pm

I do believe Anno has a point to making sure people watch the "God Warrior Attacks Tokyo" short before they watch the movie proper; it's a shame most sub groups are omitting it (UTW :(), but I also understand why.
Do a barrel roll!

Rei IV
Pilot
Pilot
User avatar
Age: 29
Posts: 2032
Joined: Dec 04, 2012
Location: USA
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Rei IV » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:08 pm

Well, I gave up trying to download the 1080p and 720p versions, as I'm beginning to think my laptop simply doesn't support those types of files. On the bright side I manage to download UTW-Thora's 480p version, so it's all good and would compare it to the former versions I mentioned. I can't say there's much of a grand difference between these three, IMHO. I'm assuming the 480p is the DVD version, am I right?

Reichu
Space-Time Teratoma
Space-Time Teratoma
User avatar
Posts: 23565
Joined: Aug 21, 2004
Location: Lost in Bat Country
Gender: Female
Contact:

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Reichu » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:18 pm

View Original PostJB2448 wrote:it's a shame most sub groups are omitting it (UTW :(),

Does that mean some sub groups have not?

riffraff11235
Seed
Seed
User avatar
Age: 26
Posts: 3962
Joined: Jul 19, 2012
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby riffraff11235 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:24 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:Does that mean some sub groups have not?

This. I can't find any subbed releases of the movie on Nyaa that explicitly say they've included it, nor can I find a standalone sub of the short. :irked:

The name of the short is "God Warrior Attacks Tokyo", right? What is it called in Japanese? Also, does the short play before the movie on the BD, or is it included as an extra? That might explain why it's so scarce....
だから みんな 死んでしまえば いいのに... では, あなたは何故, ココにいるの? ...ココにいても, いいの?
"Cogito ergo sum." - Rene Descartes
"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they quit playing." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
Avatar: Asuka is superior. That is all.
PSN - riffraff-11235 Feel free to add me. PM me on EGF if you do.
Steam - rifffraff11235

League of Legends - riffraff11235
Osu! - riffraff11235

qu4d
Sandalphon
Sandalphon
User avatar
Age: 34
Posts: 538
Joined: Oct 09, 2008
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby qu4d » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:31 pm

It's part of the main feature, not an extra.

riffraff11235
Seed
Seed
User avatar
Age: 26
Posts: 3962
Joined: Jul 19, 2012
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby riffraff11235 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 3:40 pm

Ah, found one! Not sure if the short is subtitled, though....

EDIT: Some great news! Guess I should have scrolled down a bit more.... :lol:

UTW wrote:We will be subbing the short live action section in the beginning. Please give us some time.

I hope it's finished and out by the time I'm free enough to watch the movie, which will probably be tomorrow night.
だから みんな 死んでしまえば いいのに... では, あなたは何故, ココにいるの? ...ココにいても, いいの?
"Cogito ergo sum." - Rene Descartes
"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they quit playing." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
Avatar: Asuka is superior. That is all.
PSN - riffraff-11235 Feel free to add me. PM me on EGF if you do.
Steam - rifffraff11235

League of Legends - riffraff11235
Osu! - riffraff11235

Rei IV
Pilot
Pilot
User avatar
Age: 29
Posts: 2032
Joined: Dec 04, 2012
Location: USA
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Rei IV » Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:01 pm

Q  SPOILER: Show
For shits and giggles, Sakura's "I really do want you to forgive me" should be changed to "Please don't fuck up shit for us anymore!". It would certainly be a vast improvement.

:devil:

Reichu
Space-Time Teratoma
Space-Time Teratoma
User avatar
Posts: 23565
Joined: Aug 21, 2004
Location: Lost in Bat Country
Gender: Female
Contact:

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Reichu » Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:08 pm

Remember, there is a translation thread in the spoiler area!

Baz
Leliel
Leliel
User avatar
Posts: 715
Joined: Mar 21, 2009
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Baz » Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:14 pm

The UTW-THORA encode is 10bit, which is troublesome because 1) some players can't play it 2) it requires a lot more CPU power for those that can. I don't understand their logic... the BD was 8bit, so unless they applied some filtering, what's the advantage of 10bit?

I had to grab a raw (the CHD 1080p) in order to get something that would play on my old laptop. Bonus: it came with the God Warrior short. I downloaded the subs separately (subs are just for 3.33, not the short). It's nice have the subs in a separate file anyway, it allows me to edit them according to my preferences.
Last edited by Baz on Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Rei IV
Pilot
Pilot
User avatar
Age: 29
Posts: 2032
Joined: Dec 04, 2012
Location: USA
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Rei IV » Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:16 pm

My apologies. Some these threads here and in the Q sub-forum are almost (ridiculously) identical to another and I got confused. Any who, I look forward to your translation, Reichu. UTW-Thora did great job, from what I saw, but there were many scenes where the translation felt a bit peculiar and had moments were I preferred the script used for the camrip version.

riffraff11235
Seed
Seed
User avatar
Age: 26
Posts: 3962
Joined: Jul 19, 2012
Location: Long Island, New York, USA
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby riffraff11235 » Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:21 pm

View Original PostBaz wrote:It's nice have the subs in a separate file anyway, it allows me to edit them according to my preferences.

Can .ssa/.ass files be modified by a simple text editor, or do I need another program?
だから みんな 死んでしまえば いいのに... では, あなたは何故, ココにいるの? ...ココにいても, いいの?
"Cogito ergo sum." - Rene Descartes
"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they quit playing." - Oliver Wendell Holmes
Avatar: Asuka is superior. That is all.
PSN - riffraff-11235 Feel free to add me. PM me on EGF if you do.
Steam - rifffraff11235

League of Legends - riffraff11235
Osu! - riffraff11235

Mr. Tines
Administrator
Administrator
User avatar
Age: 62
Posts: 20374
Joined: Nov 23, 2004
Location: This sceptered isle.
Gender: Male
Contact:

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Mr. Tines » Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:24 pm

View Original Postriffraff11235 wrote:Can .ssa/.ass files be modified by a simple text editor
They are flat text files, so as long as you keep the format, you can just change the dialog text in Notepad or whatever.
Reminder: Play nicely <<>> My vanity publishing:- NGE|blog|Photos|retro-blog|Fanfics||MAL
Avatar: Mahou Shoujo Rapture Asuka : "Slice them up with your magical karambit, chu!"

Oenara
Tunniel
User avatar
Posts: 152
Joined: Nov 30, 2012
Gender: Female

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Oenara » Sun Apr 28, 2013 5:25 pm

View Original PostRei IV wrote:Some these threads here and in the Q sub-forum are almost (ridiculously) identical to another and I got confused.


How about adding "No spoilers" to the thread title? Someone also got confused in the other thread before "No spoilers" was added.

Yaywalter
Shamshel
Shamshel
User avatar
Age: 28
Posts: 287
Joined: Jul 18, 2010
Location: Seabrook, TX
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Yaywalter » Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:06 pm

View Original Postriffraff11235 wrote:Can .ssa/.ass files be modified by a simple text editor, or do I need another program?


Yeah, you can just use a plain text editor.

And in fact, I did just that in order to fix all the things I didn't like about UTW's subs by making some small tweaks and mixing in a few lines I preferred from the github translation. No more Networking Four-eyes! :lol:

If you're curious, here's my custom subs:[url]http://www.mediafire.com/?glp2k807kn0x3di[/url]

The UTW-THORA encode is 10bit, which is troublesome because 1) some players can't play it 2) it requires a lot more CPU power for those that can. I don't understand their logic... the BD was 8bit, so unless they applied some filtering, what's the advantage of 10bit?

I had to grab a raw (the CHD 1080p) in order to get something that would play on my old laptop. Bonus: it came with the God Warrior short. I downloaded the subs separately (subs are just for 3.33, not the short). It's nice have the subs in a separate file anyway, it allows me to edit them according to my preferences.

10-bit has the benefit of preventing colorbanding (to a degree) during transcode, regardless of whether the source is 8 or 10 bit.
Last edited by Yaywalter on Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:32 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Baz
Leliel
Leliel
User avatar
Posts: 715
Joined: Mar 21, 2009
Gender: Male

  •      
  •      
  • Quote

Postby Baz » Sun Apr 28, 2013 6:26 pm

Thanks for the edited subs, I did a quick diff and they're a big improvement. Note to others: they're timed for encodes that include the short at the beginning.
Software Error. Press left mouse button to continue.
Guru Meditation #00000004.0000AAC0


Return to “Rebuild of Evangelion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests