Mark.06 in 3.0 Discussion

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Postby ElMariachi » Wed Apr 10, 2013 3:08 am

Yeah, that was the idea! :D

Shinji going to the sunset riding his trustful EVA-01-horse singing "I'm a poor lonesome pilot!"

The only thing needed to make it even more awesome is a final duel of pistols against Gendo with a certain harmonica song as background music! :smokin:
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Postby Mr. Tines » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:17 am

While people were calling a TTGL end almost as soon as Ha came out, that's all slightly off topic for a Mark-06 thread like this.
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Postby Mbryo » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:01 am

Kind of off-topic again, but:
The EoE MP Evas seemed to be far weaker than the regular Eva units, even though they were incorporated with a proper S2 Engine (In fact, all the S2 engines seemed to do was move the Evas around without an external power cable). Asuka completely toasted the harpies, and the MP Evas had a chance to attack only after 02 was impaled by the MP Longinus spear. And the only reason they were able to function after the battle with 02 was because Asuka did not destroy their cores, possibly because she did not know the fact that the MPs were being controlled by the Dummy System and was trying to spare the lives of the pilots she thought were inside the Eva.
But it seems kind of weird that the MP Evas were so weak, since they had the S2 Engine and all, which should have elevated them to near-god status, they were equipped with the most powerful weapons against Angels and Evas, and after all they are all Adam's clones, which means that they should have had at least some of the innate powers other Evas possess. My theory was that the MPs were originally one Eva split into many, similar to the way how Israfel splits himself up.
I also doubt that the MP Evas in NME are individually as strong as Eva 06, since it should mean that there are hundreds of Adams-class beings in one planet, and that would just be ridiculous.
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Postby Warren Peace » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:36 am

I've always thought that the harpies were simply waiting Asuka out. They (or their programmers, or whatever) knew she couldn't win, so it's about depleting her battery. On the other hand, one wonders why they didn't simply spear her from the air in the first place. That wouldn't have been very exciting, would it?

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Postby Reichu » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:50 am

Tines just delivered a gentle "topic, bitches". Now I'm delivering a firm one.
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Postby TheFriskyIan » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:59 am

The Mark 06 was seen in 1.0 to have a core like thing on its chest. If the 12th Angel was "fused" so to speak with the Mark 06, wouldn't that be two cores in one Eva? I'm not too smart on Eva science, but isn't that taboo?
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Postby ElMariachi » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:47 pm

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:The Mark 06 was seen in 1.0 to have a core like thing on its chest. If the 12th Angel was "fused" so to speak with the Mark 06, wouldn't that be two cores in one Eva? I'm not too smart on Eva science, but isn't that taboo?

Maybe the 12th's core was absorbed inside Mark.06's one, or vice-versa. Something similar happened when Zeruel ate EVA-00(00's core ended inside big Z's one).

And with two spears impaling it, no risks of funky reactions(or maybe any reaction was impossible if Mark.06 is an ADAM like some people speculate)
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Postby TheFriskyIan » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:03 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:And with two spears impaling it, no risks of funky reactions(or maybe any reaction was impossible if Mark.06 is an ADAM like some people speculate)

I couldn't tell by the crappy quality of the camrip. Was the Mark 06 impaled by both? And if it was, how big the Mark 06? Cause it looked like Eva 13 was standing on top of the whole thing which gave its appearance as a giant compared to Eva 13.
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Postby palerider1911 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:28 pm

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:I couldn't tell by the crappy quality of the camrip. Was the Mark 06 impaled by both? And if it was, how big the Mark 06? Cause it looked like Eva 13 was standing on top of the whole thing which gave its appearance as a giant compared to Eva 13.


From what I could tell from the camrip, a lance is piercing each of them. It actually looks like Lilith was pierced first, and then Mk.06 impaled itself, frozen in place since with both hands still gripping the lance:

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And, yeah. Size wise...the Mk.06, at least when it is fused to Lilith, is much larger in size when compared to Eva 13.

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Postby Reichu » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:49 pm

Here are the pics I put together that show Mark.06's initial size, which will be obsolete in a few days:

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Postby TheFriskyIan » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:23 pm

Either the Mark 06 is bigger than most Eva's or Eva 13 is smaller than others. But could The Spears/Lilith have anything to do with the size? When Mark 09 sliced off its head, its size didn't seem incredibly noticeable.
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It still looks bigger than the Mark 09 but not the point like earlier where Eva 13 was standing on it.
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Postby palerider1911 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:32 pm

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:Either the Mark 06 is bigger than most Eva's or Eva 13 is smaller than others. But could The Spears/Lilith have anything to do with the size? When Mark 09 sliced off its head, its size didn't seem incredibly noticeable.


I just watched that scene again a bunch of times over, and the angle of the camrip, plus the speed that it all happens in, makes the size of the Mk.06 difficult to discern. It does look kind of bigger than the Mk.09 though...
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Postby TheFriskyIan » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:33 pm

View Original Postpalerider1911 wrote:I just watched that scene again a bunch of times over, and the angle of the camrip, plus the speed that it all happens it, makes the size of the Mk.06 difficult to discern. It does look kind of bigger than the Mk.09 though...

I just uploaded a [piss poor] image of the scene, yes. It does look bigger still, but as big as it was earlier.
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Postby Blue Monday » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:36 pm

Its size is "bloated" because it is fused with Lilith in that enormous amalgam. It then shrinks back once the Spears have been pulled out.

This had already been discerned months ago AFAIK.
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Postby TheFriskyIan » Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:10 am

Sorry SEELE-01, but it looks like the colored plate is officially the middle one.

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It looks like they also fixed the dark blue/orange coloring on the Mark 06 that was present in the cam rip. It's now a lighter blue, although it's still more orange than I think it should be.

Lastly, I like how in the 3.33 trailer, the Mark 06's head bobbles around like a rag doll.
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[SPOILERS] Eva 06's "programming"

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Postby hwdge » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:31 pm

The programming must be to insert an angel into the mark 6, that way it would automatically go search for Lilith and do some weird fusing voodoo stuff, but when it got all uber powerful, a spear of lolling descends from no one knows where to immobilize it. This is why it probably got "ruined" by exploitation by lilin and when it's head got cut off, the angel was freed.

Or at least it's what I assume happened because it seemed all other evas that were created in 3i go search for Lilith automatically like this here picture

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Postby Reichu » Wed Apr 24, 2013 5:39 pm

View Original Posthwdge wrote:The programming

When is "programming" ever mentioned?
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Postby hwdge » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:06 pm

I assume that they had to have done something and I don't know what to call it
on another note
got a picture of the weird mystery eva from the post credits scene
http://imgur.com/gHROyKW
took it at a weird time, I assure you it does not have a headless eva attached to it's behind
interesting how it's coloration is almost identical to the dangly hands we saw in nerv and how it uses the gun that was also in storage
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Postby TheFriskyIan » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:11 pm

View Original Posthwdge wrote:I assume that they had to have done something and I don't know what to call it
on another note
got a picture of the weird mystery eva from the post credits scene
http://imgur.com/gHROyKW
took it at a weird time, I assure you it does not have a headless eva attached to it's behind

It has been agreed upon for some time that they are mass produced models of the Mark 06.
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Postby Reichu » Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:51 pm

Figured out what happened to the Mark.06. Watch frame-by-frame as the 12th Angel comes out. You can clearly see that the arms becomes limp, empty sleeves. Implying that the entire Eva became, basically, a husk housing the 12th Angel. There's nothing left.

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