Q Movie reactions (NO SPOILER)

Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition").
The third installment debuted in Japan on November 17, 2012.

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Postby Xard » Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:59 pm

The funny thing is nothing about that (should that count as spoiler) or about 3.0 is significantly more pretentious than naming scheme for Rebuild so far or 1.0 and 2.0 as films
ran1: Oh gosh this sentence gave me an internet boner. You're so tsundere.
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And don't forget to wear the Ran mask.
Eva Yojimbo: You really are the Otaku equivalent of a Catholic and Jew rolled up into one giant dakimakura of guilt.
Gob Hobblin: Sanctimonious, subtly racist, vaguely misogynist, somehow says something while at the same time saying...nothing, really, at all....

Nice, Xard. That's nice.

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Postby Grimmjow » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:51 am

View Original PostChiral_Spiral wrote:kotaku.com has a review of the movie up. Everything past the opening paragraph is spoiler territory but I gather they didn't like it. They describe it as "confusing, pretentious and contrived".


So basically they are describing it in exactly the same manner that people have been describing Evangelion in general for years.

I for one, am really looking forward to this movie. Save for the Shinji/Kaworu stuff. I have never been a fan of everyone's favorite bishie Angel.

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Postby valshon » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:48 am

Im not quite in the same mindset as the first time I watched EoE, but I feel...hollow and unusual. I am however not surprised as I have learned that you never get what you expect when it comes to Eva..


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after a night of reading novice script translations, cleanly written and honest fan reviews, post/opinions/conjecture of /a/ and egf users I want to sprout demon horns from my forehead, coat everything in blood and throw my computer out the window while cursing humanity in some demonic unknown tongue. Thank you Hideaki, you rotten explitive. time for a pill.
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Postby robersora » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:56 am

Not a real spoiler, but to be sure I'll put it in one.

SPOILER: Show
This Kotaku review made me angry because they criticized things they understood wrongly as "bad storytelling". Also, they don't seem to understand, that you can't write off a whole series before the final installment has been released.
Sure, Anno fucked us quite hard yet again, but that's what Eva is about, isn't it?
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Postby laika » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:02 am

Wow, what a ride.

I'm still trying to formulate my thoughts on this one, but I'll say this for now: because it went off into completely new territory, it felt like watching the series for the first time again. I had no idea what to expect, and regardless of any other issues the movie may have had, the unpredictable nature made watching it an enjoyable experience. If you're committed to avoiding spoilers, good luck, but I think it will be worthwhile.

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Postby Redtophat » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:46 pm

I don't know where to put this sine i'm trying to avoid story spoilers but just a yes or no fr someone who's seen the film, does Mari have a bigger role and actual character development in this film?
(PM me the answer)

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Postby brankoburcksen » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:09 pm

Japanator has a more traditional and well balanced review of the movie though it still contains some minor spoilers.

click the enclosed link at your own risk for  SPOILER: Show
http://www.japanator.com/review-evangelion-3-0-you-can-not-redo-27282.phtml


However, to summarize it: 8.0 – Great. A well executed film or series that defines its genre without resorting to cliches.

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Postby Jayfive » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:26 pm

^ some pretty fundamental spoilers in there. Click at your peril.

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Postby JoeD80 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:40 pm

FYI, Q has broken the weekend box office record for 2012:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/anime-film-draws-japan-s-393314
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-11-19/evangelion/3.0-earns-japan-highest-weekend-box-office-of-2012

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Postby Chiral_Spiral » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:10 pm

I realize this is asking a lot, but is there any way someone could briefly summarize the Japanitor and Kotaku reviews? They're the only in-depth reviews I've seen so far and both of them are apparently pretty spoiler laden. Me and the rest of the non-spoiler crowd would really appreciate it :D

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Postby A.T. Fish » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:10 pm

JoeD80 wrote:FYI, Q has broken the weekend box office record for 2012:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/anime-film-draws-japan-s-393314
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-11-19/evangelion/3.0-earns-japan-highest-weekend-box-office-of-2012


Evangelion is like the Japanese Star Wars.

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Postby robersora » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:35 pm

View Original PostChiral_Spiral wrote:I realize this is asking a lot, but is there any way someone could briefly summarize the Japanitor and Kotaku reviews? They're the only in-depth reviews I've seen so far and both of them are apparently pretty spoiler laden. Me and the rest of the non-spoiler crowd would really appreciate it :D


At first I want to say, what the Japanator Review also said, it's practically impossible to talk about this movie without spoilering.
Kotaku review is worthless as they misunderstood not only the whole climax of 2.0 and 3.0, but were also completely unable to voice a valid opinion for 3.33. (I wouldn't even call it a review, it reads more like an Interview of EVA-victims).
The Japanator review fares much better in my opinion. It's a real review.
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Postby Xard » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:41 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:Interview of EVA-victims


:lol:

This.

Japanator review is good and overall positive and they give the film good score (with caveat of pointing out it's very hard to evaluate this film as a standalone because various confusing etc. things won't be answered satisfactorily or unsatisfactorily before Final)
ran1: Oh gosh this sentence gave me an internet boner. You're so tsundere.
Mugwump: Goddamn it, Xard! Take me in your arms, you magnificent sex god bastard!
And don't forget to wear the Ran mask.
Eva Yojimbo: You really are the Otaku equivalent of a Catholic and Jew rolled up into one giant dakimakura of guilt.
Gob Hobblin: Sanctimonious, subtly racist, vaguely misogynist, somehow says something while at the same time saying...nothing, really, at all....

Nice, Xard. That's nice.

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Postby Jayfive » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:58 pm

with caveat of pointing out it's very hard to evaluate this film as a standalone because various confusing etc. things won't be answered satisfactorily or unsatisfactorily before Fina


We hope.

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Postby DubStep4U » Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:07 am

(this is my first post and I'll introduce myself in the proper thread shortly)

Just got back from the movie and I thought I would share my spoiler-free thoughts.

This is a Rebuild/Reboot for sure. While the first two installments had a lot of elements from the original series, 3.0 goes off into a different direction. Because of this, I am not surprised by the mixed reviews. There are always fans who hold an original in the highest regard and anything done to change that is met with resistance.
As for me, someone who also holds the original with high regard, I am not quite sure exactly how I feel about Q. Maybe I'll need a few days to really let it sink in. As for my initial impressions:

Visually it was fantastic. Everything from the action to the slower parts were very well done.
Sound was also great in all aspects.
The story was, well I am going to wait until 4.0. It really felt incomplete to me, and maybe that is how it was supposed to be. It's not like watching LOTR Two Towers where it gave a sense of completion as a movie but not as a series. 3.0 felt like the first half of the final chapter and we have to wait to see the last half.

Overall I enjoyed it. I'm very interested to see how this all will end(?).

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Postby Xard » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:10 am

ran1: Oh gosh this sentence gave me an internet boner. You're so tsundere.
Mugwump: Goddamn it, Xard! Take me in your arms, you magnificent sex god bastard!
And don't forget to wear the Ran mask.
Eva Yojimbo: You really are the Otaku equivalent of a Catholic and Jew rolled up into one giant dakimakura of guilt.
Gob Hobblin: Sanctimonious, subtly racist, vaguely misogynist, somehow says something while at the same time saying...nothing, really, at all....

Nice, Xard. That's nice.

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Postby bobbyfischer's ghost » Wed Nov 21, 2012 10:30 am

Anno's at it again.
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Postby duo_rei » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:11 pm

View Original Postos189 wrote:As we were walking out, I asked my Japanese buddy how it was, and the first thing he said was "Boring."

But he also admitted to crying, so I'm thinking the Shinji/Kaworu stuff at least got to him, whereas it did nothing for me.


Finally jumped on the wagon and registered to talk about Q! XD

This is pretty much how I felt when I went for the 1st time (on the 1st day of release in Ikebukuro):

WTH am I watching?? → Is this a dream or sth?? → Oh no maybe I'm sitting in the wrong cinema! → Ahhhh OK.... → *GASP!* → *sniff* → Depressed.... → I don't know what to think → *sat in seat for like 10min trying to process what had just happened* → stayed up all night....

It was fairly quiet when the movie ended. Most people just seemed too stunned to make a proper reaction (poor Shinji.... now I know exactly how he must have felt XD). A lot of them were talking about how difficult it was to follow the story because of how dramatically things have changed. Surprisingly (or not lol), a lot of the guys seemed to be pleased with the amount of screen time Kaworu had.

After reading the pamphlet and spoilers online, I went back to watch it for a 2nd time last night. It was so much better!! I think I actually understood more than half of the story, although a lot of things still went past me like nothing....

And I have to admit, I cried this time when Hikki's song started playing in the end.... Even more depressed than before T_T

As to Q being boring, I must say I found it just as exciting, if not more, than Ha. Ha to me is more like main-stream entertainment trying to please a larger audience, while Q takes us right back to what Evangelion and/or Anno should be like (at least IMO) which like in the past, certainly won't be everybody's cup of tea to say the least. But that's just me ;)

I'll also admit that at times I couldn't help but curse Anno for "abandoning" his audience once again and leaving us entirely on our own to figure sh*t out, but only to realize that was exactly what drew me to EVA in the first place....

OK Anno, you've won, again!

Planning to watch it again next month =D

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Now that I've gone back and watched the trailer for Q at the end of Ha a few more times.... I think I'm finally seeing (roughly) WTH is going on! orz

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Postby jessicadasilva » Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:57 pm

View Original Postlaika wrote:because it went off into completely new territory, it felt like watching the series for the first time again. I had no idea what to expect, and regardless of any other issues the movie may have had, the unpredictable nature made watching it an enjoyable experience.


Oh I'm so glad to hear that! That's what I'm trying to say to everyone: If they are doing EVA again is not to copy the hole series and the old movies all over again. EVA has lots of stories to cover and this one is just one more possibility.
So far I can tell 3.0 is the new EoE

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Thu Nov 22, 2012 6:41 pm

I'm not expecting Q to be the new EoE in every way. One of the reasons why D&R and EoE are my favorite films is because of the sheer variety of visual film techniques found in those films. It doesn't matter what technique I'm into at the time, one of those films is bound to use it somewhere, and use it in a very well implemented way.

But experiencing Eva anew is something I've always wanted to do since I saw the TV series for the first time. (Probably because I hate myself.) These films are a great opportunity for me to do that.


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