Ok so..i'm new here , i've seen the anime and incomplete manga ¬_¬ Why did Kaworu appear in/with/on/wtf?, The giant lilith ._.

i mean why ?, the only "ingredients" as i call them where Rei , lilith, and mini-adam , so idk he's alive? or Shinji was just hallucinating with him ._.


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Kaworu, like Rei to Lilith, bears Adam's soul. Kaworu is Adam.

I've also wondered about this for quite some time...

Tsuki No Nagisa wrote:the only "ingredients" as i call them where Rei , lilith, and mini-adam

Sachi wrote:Kaworu, like Rei to Lilith, bears Adam's soul. Kaworu is Adam.

This explains everything.

Sachi wrote:Kaworu, like Rei to Lilith, bears Adam's soul. Kaworu is Adam.

Then who or what is Tabris?

Allemann wrote:Then who or what is Tabris?

My interpretation is that Tabris is the product of the remnant of the Soul of Adam bound to the flesh of a Lilim, i.e., bound by force to Lilithian organic material.

EvangelionFan wrote: the product of the remnant of the Soul of Adam bound to the flesh of a Lilim, i.e., bound by force to Lilithian organic material.

That is Kaworu.

^ And that is his slave name.

EvangelionFan wrote:My interpretation is that Tabris is the product of the remnant of the Soul of Adam bound to the flesh of a Lilim, i.e., bound by force to Lilithian organic material.

As a technicality, Tabris comes up as an "Angel" on the Magi's scanners. It's also rather strongly implied that he was the result of some bizarro experiment that made Lilin DNA fuse into Adam and... conceive Kaworu somehow or other. I dunno if he's a clone of the DNA donor who's just made of Adam flesh, or a hybrid who just happens to be Lilin-shaped, or what. But he's pretty weird, any which way...

Alaska Slim wrote:^ And that is his slave name.

Perhaps "Kaworu Nagisa" is a false identity made specifically for Tabris to succesfully infiltrate the Japanese Nerv branch wherease he addresses himself as Tabris, an identity he received while living under Seele's auspices.

I figure they're both his "real name", in that "Kaworu Nagisa" and "Tabris" reflect different aspects of his nature.

Reichu wrote:I figure they're both his "real name", in that "Kaworu Nagisa" and "Tabris" reflect different aspects of his nature.

This. Kaworu is the human that Shinji gets to know and love, while Tabris is the Angel that Shinji needs to kill.

Ok....now i'm more confused ._.

Kaworu and Tabris is a different person in one body?

or what?, i mean the thing i know is that kaworu is an angel , Tabris the angel of free will AND the soul or something(?) of adam.

so. eh... i still don't get it!, ok so..he is simply a puppet of SEELE
and or he died in the 3I or he died in Shinji's hands, no choice, oh yeah what a free will..

Tsuki No Nagisa wrote:Kaworu and Tabris is a different person in one body?

AFAIK, Kaworu Nagisa is his human name and Tabris is his angle name.

i.e, Tabris is what was probably on the Secret Dead Sea Scrools or however they got the names of the angels.

so..he was kaworu in adam in the hand of gendo? ._.

i mean that's my doubt why did he appear if he died...

Tabris and Nagisa are the same person. Kaworu Nagisa his cover name and Tabris his angelic one. His body was the container for the soul of adam. The thing on gendo's hand was a unborn fish baby. Adam's soul died along with Kaworu/Tabris.

Reichu wrote:I figure they're both his "real name", in that "Kaworu Nagisa" and "Tabris" reflect different aspects of his nature.

Sachi wrote:This. Kaworu is the human that Shinji gets to know and love, while Tabris is the Angel that Shinji needs to kill.

Jesus of Nazareth is the human that men killed, while Jesus Christ is God that men got to know and love.

Na7e wrote:Adam's soul died along with Kaworu/Tabris.

Not any more than Adam's soul died along with Adam in Second Impact.

Sachi wrote:Kaworu is the human that Shinji gets to know and love, while Tabris is the Angel that Shinji needs to kill.

This doesn't answer how Kaworu/Tabris looked at himself.

Tsuki No Nagisa wrote:Ok....now i'm more confused ._.

Kaworu and Tabris is a different person in one body?

or what?, i mean the thing i know is that kaworu is an angel , Tabris the angel of free will AND the soul or something(?) of adam.

so. eh... i still don't get it!, ok so..he is simply a puppet of SEELE
and or he died in the 3I or he died in Shinji's hands, no choice, oh yeah what a free will..

It's very simple: Kaworu is Rei but with Adam's soul instead of Lillith. He's as much Adam as she is Lillith.

Though he doesn't take all the drugs that she does so is probably more in touch with his Adam-ness than she is her Lillith-yness

liquidus118 wrote:
Though he doesn't take all the drugs that she does so is probably more in touch with his Adam-ness than she is her Lillith-yness

Kind of makes me wonder, why seele didn't drug Kaworu as well.