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Postby thewayneiac » Mon Sep 05, 2011 10:24 am

The things I see (not actually sure about the little people):

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The giant head is facing us but tilted a little toward the black blob in the bottom right.
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Postby AshPhoenix » Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:19 pm

View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:The dark area in the middle now looks like there are boxes irregularly arranged on a dark surface rather than being a heap of stuff; but it doesn't gel in perspective with the trees+obelisk+length of curtain wall in the top left quadrant; and neither with the phone booth and cabin in the top right.

Those boxes are what I thought were coffins.

thewayneiac wrote:The giant head is facing us but tilted a little toward the black blob in the bottom right.

The "head" is implied that of Adam, right? Well, if it is, I don't think that it could be a head (or at least the head of Adam) because, if you look at this picture:
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Adam's head is facing downward during excavation. You said that the head was facing towards us, but that shouldn't be the case if it was Adam.

On the flip side, though, if we reasoned that the head was facing downward, and it's just that we can't see all of Adam having been excavated yet, I could fathom that this picture is an excavation of Adam.
The little cross-shaped object in the center of the picture could be a half-excavated Spear of Longinus and the two things on the side could be half-excavated arms, perhaps...?
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Postby someguy » Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:48 pm

If that's a head it's remarkably featureless. If it's the top of Adam's head facing into the ground, the featurelessness might make sense, but what is the black blob right underneath it?
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Postby Seele00TextOnly » Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:50 pm

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Why Adam. I don't see why folks are settling on Adam when we already have excavation depictions of him. Lilith makes so much more sense; also, it fits moreso with what Ristuko is saying at that moment. And I agree, that thing in the foreground has no facial feature nor anatomic relation to the generally agreed upon 'arms'. The most facelike feature that that part has is the imposed line of some of Rei's hair, IMO.

I do like most of the observations made about people in the pic though, and I think I spotted a couple more amidst the structure apparatus stuff. Good old black pants and white labcoat... makes for great identification. The proportions of these people to Lilith is in line with the proportion we saw of Kaworu and other characters to Lilith in the show.

Another comment about that thing in the lower right corner; yeah I can see how the more chair-like portion was from the Rei's now. But there's till the 'foreground' construction-like line and some component that I have outlined that runs parallel to it and is definitely not from the Rei's. Of further note, the thick 'foreground' line runs perfectly perpendicular to the line of the laying sprawled out Lilith from her head to her would be toes.

My speculation about the shapes of the structures here may be a bit distracting, but I felt like giving them some sort of shot too. Please note that the most important parts to me are the scientists (especially the two lone ones I pointed out above Lilith's torso) and the refined outline of what I believe the head to be. The specific outlines of the arms are hard to come by, but the general placement and directions are more important anyway, especially when debating where the head is. There's a shading of the jaw and the crown of the head. There's lines denoting a mouth and brow. It's fuzzy sure, very 'Face on Mars' ish but it's still the strongest analysis thus far I think.
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Postby MugwumpHasNoLiver » Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:34 pm

I can totally see the face that Seele outlined. I decided to be a prick and point out all the features, as well as enhance them with the burn tool.

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It's very much reminiscent of a stone idol or a mummy. It's very hard and skeletal.
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Postby thewayneiac » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:34 pm

View Original Postsomeguy wrote:If that's a head it's remarkably featureless. If it's the top of Adam's head facing into the ground, the featurelessness might make sense, but what is the black blob right underneath it?


Actually, I sort of see a nose and mouth, but just a blur where the eyes should be.
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Postby NemZ » Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:35 pm

Lilith sleeping in a lake in the forest holding a giant ...bone, I guess?

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Postby Deyno » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:07 pm

no way. that isn't Lilith, forget it
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Postby Azathoth » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:28 pm

View Original PostNemZ wrote:Lilith sleeping in a lake in the forest holding a giant ...bone, I guess?


While a lone gigantic top-hat looks somberly on.
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Postby chloe00 » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:32 am

Hey i like these pictures.. These are superb

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Postby someguy » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:07 am

View Original Postthewayneiac wrote:Actually, I sort of see a nose and mouth, but just a blur where the eyes should be.

On the thing on the bottom or the thing towards the top?
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Postby NemZ » Tue Sep 06, 2011 3:32 am

Actually looking at the indistinct shapes to the sides... could we be seeing a couple dudes tossing a corpse off the side of a ship into the new dead sea?
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Postby thewayneiac » Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:56 am

View Original Postsomeguy wrote:On the thing on the bottom or the thing towards the top?


The thing on the bottom. If it is a giant head it looks like some sort of cap has been pulled down over its forehead and eyes.
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Postby CJD » Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:35 am

My take.

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Postby thewayneiac » Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:45 pm

^ I don't think reflections of light in water can be right. There's definately a large piece of equipment dead center in this image. If it is a kneeling man, there's another guy immediately to his right, circled in orange on Seele00TextOnly's image above (is he wearing a bowtie?), and they are both looking at a readout on the device.
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Postby CJD » Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:43 pm

View Original Postthewayneiac wrote:^ I don't think reflections of light in water can be right. There's definately a large piece of equipment dead center in this image. If it is a kneeling man, there's another guy immediately to his right, circled in orange on Seele00TextOnly's image above (is he wearing a bowtie?), and they are both looking at a readout on the device.


I don't see the person to his immediate right in Seele's images. I see "Scientists" but their proportions are much too small if the kneeling man is that big. Do you mean the "Statue"? The reason I think it's a statue is that he's standing on some form of a ledge, and the way his feet are split. It's an odd stance, to have your feet pointing left and right, heels touching, at such an extreme angle. I can't imagine it being anything other then a statue on a ledge overlooking the "Kneeling Man".

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Postby someguy » Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:08 pm

Those are absolutely not feet, that is some object bolted to the ground with an oval flange-like object. It almost looks like a fire hydrant but I couldn't find one that didn't use a round flange at the base. I also disagree with the statue assesment, as statues are not bolted to the ground with oval flange. EDIT: Well, I'm not sure... I've always thought it was bolted, and you can see what appears to be a bolt on the right, but I guess you can't see one on the left. Regardless, it is definitely a solid shape, not feet.

Regarding the thing everyone keeps saying is a building, as far as I can tell the line immediately to its right goes upward and then curves 90 degrees to the left, forming what people are taking as the roof. The curved line looks like a traffic signal, or freeway sign, sort of like here: http://www.archicentral.com/wp-content/images/Parasite-Catalyst-Freeway-Wind-Turbines-By-Joseph-De-Le-Ree.jpg (in the background, the foreground thing is some CG architectural design)
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Postby thewayneiac » Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:46 pm

View Original PostCJD wrote:I don't see the person to his immediate right in Seele's images. I see "Scientists" but their proportions are much too small if the kneeling man is that big. Do you mean the "Statue"? The reason I think it's a statue is that he's standing on some form of a ledge, and the way his feet are split. It's an odd stance, to have your feet pointing left and right, heels touching, at such an extreme angle. I can't imagine it being anything other then a statue on a ledge overlooking the "Kneeling Man".


I mean the midmost "scientist" in Seele's image. The third from the left or second from the right. He's not as out of proportion as he appears because we are only seeing his head and shoulders. In your image the top of his face is directly to the right if the word "water". He's staring up and to the left.
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Postby CJD » Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:56 pm

View Original Postthewayneiac wrote:I mean the midmost "scientist" in Seele's image. The third from the left or second from the right. He's not as out of proportion as he appears because we are only seeing his head and shoulders. In your image the top of his face is directly to the right if the word "water". He's staring up and to the left.
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I think I see "His" face, but it's way to blurry. The "kneeling man", "statue", and "building" in the background are pretty sharp, he just looks ghostly, assuming I'm seeing what you are.

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Postby thewayneiac » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:27 pm

View Original PostCJD wrote:'
I think I see "His" face, but it's way to blurry. The "kneeling man", "statue", and "building" in the background are pretty sharp, he just looks ghostly, assuming I'm seeing what you are.


I agree about the building, but to me "Kneeling Man" and "statue" just look like big blobs. "Kneeling Man" may or may not be there (I'm still holding out for the giant head); I don't see a statue in the black blob at all. Is the smaller dark spot where the head should be even attached to it? Or is it further away down at ground level? The only clear detail is the brace bolted to the tile floor. To me, bowtie guy is at least as clear as kneeling man, about 50/50. (Of course, I can't have both Bowtie Guy and Giant Head; one of them would be wildly out of proportion.)
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