Official Rebuild Dub Thread

Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition").
The third installment debuted in Japan on November 17, 2012.

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Postby Alaska Slim » Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:03 am

View Original PostKendrix wrote:They only recast her because...

...of the same reason they got Spike Spencer and Alllison Keith to come back, continuity with the original cast.

As evidently part of the "minority obsessed with her", I have to call "bullsh*t" on your reasoning. Funimation had no reason to consider her any differently than any other member of the dub, that's your own view of her talking.

View Original PostKendrix wrote:And stop dissing Death Note, it's awesome.

Agreed, it's just laughable as a social commentary.[/diss] :tongue:
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Postby Kendrix » Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:33 am

It was never meant as a social commentary. That's one great misconception. What the authors wanted to express was the transiency of life. Google it.


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Postby gatotsu911 » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:26 pm

The notion that Death Note was meant to be anything other than incredibly entertaining perplexes me.
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Postby Bagheera » Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:49 pm

View Original Postgatotsu911 wrote:The notion that Death Note was meant to be anything other than incredibly entertaining perplexes me.


The notion that it was entertaining perplexes me, but to each their own.

What does this have to do with the Rebuild dub, anyway?
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Postby C.A.P. » Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:57 pm

^Their endings and the show's English dub is controversial?
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Postby gatotsu911 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:32 am

The only people I've seen seriously criticize Death Note's dub are hardcore weeaboos.
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Postby Shogo-Kun » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:34 am

^ Yeah, weeaboos are the unholy fetal sperm of the interwebs, aren't they?
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Postby Tarnsman » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:04 pm

weeaboos.

"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

But again, what the hell does Death Note have to do with the Rebuild dub? Do they even share any of the same actors or localization crew? Don't we have a sub-forum where a discussion about the merits of Death Note, or lack therefore of, belongs?
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I HAVE ROCKET LAUNCHER, YOUR LOGIC IS INVALID! B)

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Postby Alaska Slim » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:21 pm

View Original PostTarnsman wrote:But again, what the hell does Death Note have to do with the Rebuild dub? Do they even share any of the same actors or localization crew?

No, I just checked, and that took a while...

Death Note was done by Viz, for the most part an entirely different talent pool there.

But anyway, the Rebuild dub is king, and thanks to the internet, I have one of these:
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All further arguments are futile, agreed?
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Postby Shogo-Kun » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:22 pm

^Agreed!
NGE was a damned good anime
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And Rebuild is nothing short of epic
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Postby Bagheera » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:49 pm

View Original PostAlaska Slim wrote:All further arguments are futile, agreed?


Yes. Dubbies will not see reason, and it's pointless to try and talk them into it when they're bound and determined to avoid it at all costs.

Don't give me that look. You're the one who broke out the rocket launcher.
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Postby Shogo-Kun » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:52 pm

View Original PostBagheera wrote:Yes. Dubbies will not see reason, and it's pointless to try and talk them into it when they're bound and determined to avoid it at all costs.

Or we just have our own preferences and don't want to conform to the standards of another. Especially if their being arrogant about it. (Translation: TROLL HARDER! I can see right through you.)
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Postby Bagheera » Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:59 pm

View Original PostShogo-Kun wrote:Or we just have our own preferences and don't want to conform to the standards of another. Especially if their being arrogant about it. (Translation: TROLL HARDER! I can see right through you.)


Scroll up, bucko. I'm not the one talking about dubs being king.
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Postby Alaska Slim » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:14 pm

Okay, calm down (Skogu-kun, you too).

Look, all I'm doing is following an internet meme here, trying to divert from my own segway that somehow got us talking about Death Note.

And all I have been saying, is that the Dub, to its credit, accomplished something, it didn't suck, and in many ways was a fair and decent localization.

Don't like it? All right, fine, but I don't see anything here that warrants ragging on the cast or their efforts. Their understanding of characters has grown, we all can see that, and it is evident they cared for what they were doing here.

It wasn't apathetic, it wasn't "just because", they put effort into it, and it shows. Doesn't that deserve some recognition?
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Postby Tarnsman » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:18 pm

View Original PostAlaska Slim wrote:It wasn't apathetic, it wasn't "just because", they put effort into it, and it shows. Doesn't that deserve some recognition?

If I went over to your house and started smashing up your car would "I put effort into it" excuse the fact that I just destroyed your automobile? No it wouldn't. Effort only goes so far. I will openly agree that ADV put effort into their dub of Eva, but that doesn't make the end result suck less. In some aspects the extra effort only increased the problems because of misdirection (see Tiffany Grant's extra effort at being obnoxious as hell).

The Rebuild dubs don't have that amateurish "charm" to them but I'd argue more effort was put into them since there was actual quality control and they made a good end product.
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Postby Bagheera » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:23 pm

View Original PostTarnsman wrote:If I went over to your house and started smashing up your car would "I put effort into it" excuse the fact that I just destroyed your automobile? No it wouldn't. Effort only goes so far. I will openly agree that ADV put effort into their dub of Eva, but that doesn't make the end result suck less. In some aspects the extra effort only increased the problems because of misdirection (see Tiffany Grant's extra effort at being obnoxious as hell).

The Rebuild dubs don't have that amateurish "charm" to them but I'd argue more effort was put into them since there was actual quality control and they made a good end product.


I thought Alaska was talking about the Rebuild dubs.
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Postby Alaska Slim » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:40 pm

View Original PostTarnsman wrote:If I went over to your house and started smashing up your car would "I put effort into it" excuse the fact that I just destroyed your automobile? No it wouldn't.

That example would also have to include equipping my car with a surround sound stereo (which for my car, would mean you put something in there far more than it was worth anyway).

Along with including 5.1 digital sound on their disks, they threw in extra-canonical materials, some relevant, some not, the subs you yourself likely read, and yes, the commentary, which for all we tote it, is nothing more than their own opinions, and likely them just blowing steam for what must have been a hectic work schedule.

They did this when it was still common for companies to just put their Dub on the copy, added a chapter select, and say "Yup, job well done", then proceed to release the series two episodes at a time.

View Original PostTarnsman wrote:In some aspects the extra effort only increased the problems because of misdirection (see Tiffany Grant's extra effort at being obnoxious as hell).

See other extra effort: credible German that doesn't take me out of the story. She didn't have to do it, she just did it.

View Original PostTarnsman wrote:The Rebuild dubs don't have that amateurish "charm" to them but I'd argue more effort was put into them since there was actual quality control and they made a good end product.

Since it was largely the Rebuild dub I was talking of anyway, that's good to hear.
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Postby Tarnsman » Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:21 pm

View Original PostAlaska Slim wrote:See other extra effort: credible German that doesn't take me out of the story. She didn't have to do it, she just did it.

Tiffany Grant's German was simply better than Miyamura's. But it was still horrible. I saw Rebuild's dubs before I saw the original dubs and not once did I think during the Rebuild dubs "You know what would make this great? If Asuka randomly inserted German words into her dialogue." After seeing it in the original dub, I was pleased by its absence in the newer dubs.
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Postby Ornette » Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:05 pm

Split the ADV is awesome tangent to here: http://forum.evageeks.org/viewtopic.php?t=11894

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Postby LealahLupin3 » Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:41 am

Yay poking the sleeping post. I'll be brief.

I just saw the 2.22 dub tonight and holy hell, did John Swasey sound bored out of his mind. I've never been a fan of Swasey's take on Gendo, but jeez. He gave a flat, disinterested performance with barely any vocal inflection, even more so than his performance of Van Hoenheim in Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood. I know Gendo is supposed to be kind of world weary but I mean, come on, he also supposed to be at least vaguely sinister. Tristan MacAvery did so much of a better job conveying any type of human emotion than Swasey does. And I'm still having trouble distinguishing between Gendo and Fuyutsuki when they talk because their actors sound so similar. :-/

I thought everyone else was spot on except for Brina Palencia playing Rei. I know everyone has already said this before but she really does convey too much emotion. She just wasn't robotic enough for my taste.

I think I'm also the odd one out in saying that I didn't have a problem with who they got to voice Mari. It wasn't the performance of the century or anything but let's face it, it wasn't the roll of the century either. I thought she did alright.
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