Sailor Star Dust wrote:
Shinji has various physical contact (romantic (Misato frenching him goodbye)
, intimate (Him laying against both Asuka and Rei in a sex position, later on Rei and Shinji holding hands and his head in Rei's lap, the final scene Asuka caress)
, violent (strangling Asuka twice)
) with all three leading ladies in EoE, so him hugging Rei isn't completely surprising. NGE also placed tons of emphasis on hands, which New Movie Edition is doing somewhat as well...
You're missing the point. Shinji never INITIATED
any sort of physical intimacy with anyone. Violence sure, but nothing else really. The kiss with Asuka was initiated by Asuka, as was Misato.
It just sort of changes the whole way I look at his character. Is this the same boy I remember being this badly afflicted by the hedgehog's dilemma? Or he is just merely another under confident, but shy boy?
What's the point of "Rebuilding" something if it's not gonna be any different? Changing what Shinji struggles with, or perhaps more appropriately, how he approaches those struggles, and therefore altering his character, is just part of the change that Anno's experimenting with. I don't see this is a bad thing, seeing as how it doesn't contradict with anything else suggested in NME so far. Same goes for Asuka and Rei.
I mean, if you just take the NME films separate from NGE, you really don't have too much else than a story that makes sense within its own confines, a lot of unanswered plot related questions, and an effective cliff-hanger. And I think you have to treat NGE equally. You need to see that without bringing any of the influences from NME into the picture. If you do that, everything within each separate saga flows pretty naturally.
I find it meaningless if the character is not the same character. If Anno wants to aim for a happier tone or conclusion to Evangelion, then I want to see the SAME
characters make it there. Otherwise it's just Anno taking different characters to a different conclusion and kind of just implies to me that the original were doomed to failure. Yes, you can have the old characters make better decisions, but it has to be within the confines of their personalities.
Also, I don't understand this statement:
How does one "reimagine" something without ever "going back to it"? You're suggesting he can re imagine Evangelion without ever touching Evangelion in order to do it, and I want to know how it is possible for one to do this.
And "milking"... are you referring to merchandise? Because that's not Anno's department. you can blame that on every toy company who were bidding for the rights to the character models. Though I'm sure Anno isn't suffering from it either, we need to be real. If no one was bidding for the rights to the Evangelion merchandising, there wouldn't be as many Eva toys as we see on the market.
You take out the word "completely" and my statement's meaning is very different. If Anno is creating a story so detached from the original beyond superficial elements that it's hardly recognizable, I see no point in revistiing the story. Reimagining gains meaning when you present the same setting and characters, and reach a different conclusion. What we have here is pretty much the same setting, but DIFFERENT
characters reaching a very different conclusion. I just don't see the point. He should just make something new.
Well, most of his statements suggest that elements in NME were contradictory within itself because they weren't the same as they were in NGE. That's like saying Nolan's depiction of Batman's origins in Batman Begins
was contradictory within itself because it didn't follow Tim Burton's depiction of the same incident in Batman
. After all, what motivation did Batman have to fight against The Joker in The Dark Knight
if The Joker wasn't the one who killed Bruce Wayne's parents like he did in the Tim Burton movie? Without that element, Batman has no motivation to go after The Joker like he did in The Dark Knight
, and therefore Nolan is a poor story-teller.
Your analogy is wrong because Tim Burton isn't directing the Dark Knight.
Anyhow, my overall displeasure with Rebuild 2.0 is the betrayal of my own personal desire to see certain elements of the original Evangelion make way into the film. I do feel it is fair to evaluate it on such terms because as a reboot of an existing franchise, Anno and Studio Khara are definitely banking on old fandom catching fire. Now call me weird, but I never wanted to be “entertained” in a classic fun manner when it comes to anything Evangelion related. Rather, I want to be pulverized into my chair and have my emotions violently played with, something that Rebuild 2.0 ultimately failed at with the lack of depth presented in its characters.
Overall, with the overemphasis on silly school life moments, to how the characters were warped from their original personas, Evangelion lost its identity as a gritty mecha in an apoplectic world. Originally a captivating and philosophically complex story was now no more than a generic hot blooded mecha tale. What many including myself saw as perhaps the greatest anime franchise ever was now no more than a simply above average viewing experience. If this was just any old anime there would be no problem, but for something with the reputation of Evangelion, such an average job earns nothing but my scorn.
I still don't understand why Anno decided to cover what was pretty much 12-18 episodes of the original series material in one movie when the other covered only like 5-6. Even the first one felt pretty quick, but it still came off pretty good.
Anno has let us all down.