Silly Google tricks: Evangelion's longevity
Moderator: Board Staff
Forum rules
By visiting this forum, you agree to read the rules for discussion and abide by them.
By visiting this forum, you agree to read the rules for discussion and abide by them.
Silly Google tricks: Evangelion's longevity
After seeing Mike Darwin's attempt at interpreting cryonics history and PR with respect to Google N-gram's charts, http://chronopause.com/index.php/2011/03/07/poisoning-the-well-measuring-the-cultural-penetration-of-cryonics-using-google-ngram-technology/ , I wonder what anime charts looked like. I tried to recall old series that were popular in English for comparison, and threw in Gundam and Sailor Moon as benchmarks. (Pokemon just squashed the chart flat, so I had to drop that.)
http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=Kimagure%2CEvangelion%2CEscaflowne%2CGundam%2CSailor+Moon%2CIkkoku%2CUrusei+Yatsura&year_start=1980&year_end=2008&corpus=0&smoothing=0
Noisy, yes, since it's dealing with a mostly (all?) English corpus and one that has anomalies others have pointed out.
But some of the spikes seem to have reasonable explanations. The 2003/2004 Eva spike would be for EoE's English releases and 2007 for Rebuild; the 1994 Gundam spike might be for G Gundam (timing seems to be wrong for Gundam Wing - which seems to have no associated spike?!). Another anomaly is a noticeable bump in Urusei Yatsura in 2006. I have no suggestion for that. I don't know anything about Sailor Moon, so I can't venture an explanation for the 2000 spike; no doubt a movie or something was released then. (quanticle suggests it was due to Cartoon Network picking up Sailor Moon for Toonami in 1998 and airing S and SuperS in 2000 as well*.)
Overall, interesting comparison. I bet people would not have expected Eva to be competitive with Sailor Moon or Gundam, which were so much more generally popular. Probably proof of academic interest in Eva - disproportionately covered or mentioned in published materials.
* https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sailor_Moon_%28English_adaptations%29#Cartoon_Network
http://ngrams.googlelabs.com/graph?content=Kimagure%2CEvangelion%2CEscaflowne%2CGundam%2CSailor+Moon%2CIkkoku%2CUrusei+Yatsura&year_start=1980&year_end=2008&corpus=0&smoothing=0
Noisy, yes, since it's dealing with a mostly (all?) English corpus and one that has anomalies others have pointed out.
But some of the spikes seem to have reasonable explanations. The 2003/2004 Eva spike would be for EoE's English releases and 2007 for Rebuild; the 1994 Gundam spike might be for G Gundam (timing seems to be wrong for Gundam Wing - which seems to have no associated spike?!). Another anomaly is a noticeable bump in Urusei Yatsura in 2006. I have no suggestion for that. I don't know anything about Sailor Moon, so I can't venture an explanation for the 2000 spike; no doubt a movie or something was released then. (quanticle suggests it was due to Cartoon Network picking up Sailor Moon for Toonami in 1998 and airing S and SuperS in 2000 as well*.)
Overall, interesting comparison. I bet people would not have expected Eva to be competitive with Sailor Moon or Gundam, which were so much more generally popular. Probably proof of academic interest in Eva - disproportionately covered or mentioned in published materials.
* https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Sailor_Moon_%28English_adaptations%29#Cartoon_Network
So N-gram also searches internet contents as well? I had thought that it is only about published books.
I never thought I would come back to Evangelion after EoE,
But I discovered Re-Take (or it found me?) and
now here I am.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asuka FAN FOREVER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But I discovered Re-Take (or it found me?) and
now here I am.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asuka FAN FOREVER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I would be interested to see the trends that include mentions in internet contents...
I never thought I would come back to Evangelion after EoE,
But I discovered Re-Take (or it found me?) and
now here I am.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asuka FAN FOREVER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But I discovered Re-Take (or it found me?) and
now here I am.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asuka FAN FOREVER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Another anomaly is a noticeable bump in Urusei Yatsura in 2006
I believe it was around this time animeigo re-released the series on dvd. Of course now it's out of print again
Parasite Galaxy: An experimental webcomic
http://www.parasitegalaxy.com/ Updates Monday and Thursday. Vote for me on top webcomics
If you want to support this comic buy something from me on amazon
http://www.parasitegalaxy.com/ Updates Monday and Thursday. Vote for me on top webcomics
If you want to support this comic buy something from me on amazon
Thanks for the reminder. I forgot the url. Unfortunately it seems to only go back to 2004?
Have just tried it with "Evangelion" and found that it has trended continuously downwards since 2004 except for two small blips in 2009 and 2010.
https://www.google.com/trends?q=evangelion&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all
But the sample of books mentioning specific anime titles must have been very small back in 20-30 years ago, right? I can see the trend to be meaningful for trends in the last 10-15 years though.
I never thought I would come back to Evangelion after EoE,
But I discovered Re-Take (or it found me?) and
now here I am.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asuka FAN FOREVER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But I discovered Re-Take (or it found me?) and
now here I am.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asuka FAN FOREVER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That's to be expected. Remember that it is showing percentage changes in the number of searches, but the number of searches on any topic keeps going up and up - the Web keeps expanding and other languages where anime and Eva are not big things keep growing and getting counted. For Eva to represent a constant percentage of global Google searches would mean it is quickly increasing in popularity among anime fans! As more anime come out, it's natural for older anime to get diluted.
If you don't believe, graph Evangelion against other series like Sailor Moon or Gundam (a similar slow decline). Other interesting series to graph against: Fruits Basket, Naruto, Bleach.
But the sample of books mentioning specific anime titles must have been very small back in 20-30 years ago, right? I can see the trend to be meaningful for trends in the last 10-15 years though.
Small perhaps, but books are published pretty steadily. The total of books may not be all that small. (For example, when I search the keywords 'anime manga' in Google Books from 1970-1980 - surely an obscure period for anime/manga - I still get 43 hits of varying quality in varying non-Japanese languages.) I'm not sure how broad the N-gram database is. I have come across old magazines and locked anime/manga magazine issues inside Google Books; and what Google Books has, N-gram may have.
- Hyper Shinchan
- Younger God
- Age: 36
- Posts: 4774
- Joined: Aug 07, 2005
- Location: Bunga Bunga Republic
- Gender: Male
Regarding the trend graphs, I've compared Evangelion and エヴァンゲリオン, "エヴァンゲリオン" touched really high peaks around 2007 and 2009 (release of Rebuild 1.0 and 2.0 respectively) while "Evangelion" bursts as well during those periods but in a minor way. It's also quite interesting that the word "Evangelion" is more popular in Spanish speaking countries, Philippine and Italy than in English speaking countries.
So let’s make a wish.
“Please let me redo again.”
No matter how many times
From the book “All About Nagisa Kaworu: A Child of Evangelion”.
“Please let me redo again.”
No matter how many times
From the book “All About Nagisa Kaworu: A Child of Evangelion”.
^ This is some insight.
I've just tried comparing ヱヴァンゲリヲン and エヴァンゲリオン and found the blips coincided but エヴァンゲリオン was still much more popular after NME came out in 2007 and used the new name :)
I've just tried comparing ヱヴァンゲリヲン and エヴァンゲリオン and found the blips coincided but エヴァンゲリオン was still much more popular after NME came out in 2007 and used the new name :)
I never thought I would come back to Evangelion after EoE,
But I discovered Re-Take (or it found me?) and
now here I am.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asuka FAN FOREVER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But I discovered Re-Take (or it found me?) and
now here I am.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asuka FAN FOREVER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Hyper Shinchan
- Younger God
- Age: 36
- Posts: 4774
- Joined: Aug 07, 2005
- Location: Bunga Bunga Republic
- Gender: Male
^I did that comparison as well but I didn't mention it in the end, I thought it was a little obvious, but actually I was wondering one thing: can you easily write those weird kana (especially "ヱ") using standard IME? I know almost nothing about it so I was wondering if Japanese fans simply don't use the new name because they're used to the old one or if it's because inserting those kana could be tedious.
So let’s make a wish.
“Please let me redo again.”
No matter how many times
From the book “All About Nagisa Kaworu: A Child of Evangelion”.
“Please let me redo again.”
No matter how many times
From the book “All About Nagisa Kaworu: A Child of Evangelion”.
I could type "ヱ" from the option of available substitution when I typed "E" in Japanese text input. Perhaps there is an easier way to input that
I never thought I would come back to Evangelion after EoE,
But I discovered Re-Take (or it found me?) and
now here I am.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asuka FAN FOREVER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
But I discovered Re-Take (or it found me?) and
now here I am.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Asuka FAN FOREVER
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Hyper Shinchan
- Younger God
- Age: 36
- Posts: 4774
- Joined: Aug 07, 2005
- Location: Bunga Bunga Republic
- Gender: Male
Return to “Everything Else Evangelion”
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 23 guests