Evangelion 3.33 Dreams

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Postby Sachi » Sun May 15, 2011 12:46 pm

The scene is Germany. A black, humanoid Angel emanating dark vapor rises from the ground (it's design somewhat resembles Dead Space 2's Elite Advanced Suit), and starts wrecking havoc as if searching for something. Immediately, Unit-01 and Unit-02 are launched via plane onto the city piloted by Shinji and Asuka respectively. Mention of Codename: Leliel passes through their communications, and the two begin a synchronized twin attack against the target. The Angel begins sinking segments of the city into a black pool in an attempt to counter the two Evangelions, but the well-rehearsed duo double team it; Unit-01 stays at a distance with a rifle, while Unit-02 flanks the Angel with a lance (not the LoL). As Asuka performs a flying lunge unto the Angel from above, it transforms much of it's body into a shield to defend against the attack; the ground around the Angel begins sinking into a black pool, taking much of its surroundings with it, but the force of Asuka's attack eventually pierces through the shield and through the Angels core, destroying it. The Angel explodes, but the flood of blood is kept within the black pool as it sinks in and slowly disappears.

During the debriefing, we finally get caught up with the events since 2.22. Several months have passed since the near Third Impact incident, and everybody seems to have recovered fully. Shinji has a newfound sense of confidence, and actively socializes with Rei and Asuka; Rei swears she cannot remember anything of the 10th Angel attack after being swallowed by the Angel, and Asuka, albeit equipped with an eye patch after the incident with the 9th Angel, is filled with her usual air of pride. Mari has also openly joined the Eva roster. Nerv now only has two Evagelions, yet four pilots; a third Unit is being developed to meet the demand, and will likely be designated to Rei Ayanami.

Shinji and Asuka are congratulated on their success with the 11th Angel, and it is hinted that they are getting along well living together. Tokyo-3 is fully recovered during the events, and life seems to have returned to normal. All seems well in the world of NTE, but mysteriously, Rei does not seem to be playing as huge a role as expected after the events of the 10th Angel, is a kept in the background.

The scene then cuts to a ship in the harbor. A black market exchange is happening, the dealer being a notorious pirate dealing in Nerv and Eva technology. Asuka, however, disguised as a pirate (lol, eyepatch), stops the illegal exchange, and much of the pirate crew is arrested, but the captain manages to escape.

Still in Germany after the 11th Angel battle, everybody has a celebratory dinner at an older relative of Asuka's, a small, two story apartment-style home in the mountains. But word of two large black spheres approaching each other from off the coast of California has Misato worried; she orders Mari to take Unit-02 and accompany the Lt. Colonel to investigate. Kaji remains to chaperone the event with Asuka's older relative. The dinner party goes well, and at one point Asuka and Shinji go onto the balcony.

The two have a conversation that, at first, seems like a typical interaction between the two, but it somehow segues into Asuka dealing with the stab in her pride after the events of the 9th Angel. She admits to feeling worthless and a liability to the team, but before she can get too far into her pity party, Shinji suddenly leans in and kisses her. And the two stay out on the balcony together for several more minutes together.

After a while, Shinji enters the apartment again, alone, and is asked to help Asuka's older relative with some of the cleaning; Rei is also there doing dishes. But suddenly, the lights go out and gunfire can be heard. Apparently the pirate captain had heard word of the dinner party, and decided to exact his revenge on Captain Asuka Langley Shikinami. Kaji rushes Shinji and Rei out the backdoor to run for safety and gives Shinji a handgun, but remains inside to make sure Asuka and her relative make it out as well.

Shinji and Rei run through the forest, but can hear the gunshots and laughter of several attackers following closely behind them. One manages to catch up with them, grabbing onto to Rei with a knife to her throat. After a brief struggle, Shinji manages to shoot the attacker, but is traumatized by having to do so, and looks at the body in disbelief. The sound of more gunshots coming his way manages to get his head together and continue running.

The two eventually reach a clearing, and the blood-stained moon shines brightly above them. The seem to have eluded their pursuers, and decide to rest there for a moment.

Meanwhile, Mari in Unit-02 has reached California, and the two large spheres have almost met each other off the coast. A large whirlpool appears in the water, and one sinks down the opening. The remaining sphere begins to remove its cloak, revealing a large avian Angel, while the one in the ocean reveals a large amphibian Angel. Misato comments on how she can't seem to communicate with Kaji and the rest, and Mari prepares for a solo battle.

Back in the clearing, Shinji is sitting and staring at his hands, one blood-stained, and the other carrying a gun. A voice from the sky suddenly says, "This world was supposed to make you happy, yet you somehow managed to let it collapse."

Everything around Shinji disappears, including Rei, except for the light of the moon shining down upon him. Kaworu comes out of the darkness and reveals himself to the traumatized young boy. Kaworu comments on this failure, and explains to Shinji that everything was ruined because Shinji rejected the perfect world he was given, where everything was designed to make him happy; he developed a friendly relationship with Rei, and began an intimate one with Asuka; he lives fighting Angels, and in return receives praise from his father. Yet he somehow wasn't able to handle the perfect system, and this caused the world to collapse and for pain to return in his life.

Before admitting his complete failure, however, Kaworu senses another presence and comments, "So you also had something to do with this. I'll let you have your way then."

Everything disappears for a moment, and Shinji's helltrain appears. Shinji goes through a long interrogation about the events of the 10th Angel, Third Impact, as well as his relationship with Rei and his father. Shinji at first seems adamant in his decision to save Rei, but quickly breaks down and grasps for straws. He blames his father for everything that has happened, and wishes he would just die.

A long mindfuck sequence occurs, tormenting Shinji even more, and his relationship with those close to him are brought up. Eventually, though, the voice becomes that of Rei's and is soothing to Shinji, asking him to become one with her and exist in bliss. At first it seems tempting, but Shinji eventually decides that he cannot, and needs to return to everybody.

He eventually wakes up in the Entry Plug of Unit-01 alone, precisely as it had been when Kaworu speared it to prevent Third Impact. The entire thing was a dream sequence. Efforts to retrieve Shinji and Unit-01 were just coming to their conclusion, and the films ends with the Entry Plug being removed.
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Postby Stryker » Sun May 15, 2011 12:52 pm

Fuck yeah.


I won't be disappointed if this isn't how it really goes, because this is badass enough on itself. Shinji kissing Asuka is actually quite cute, but.. I wish it were Soryu, not Shikinami. But.. how did you get your hands on 3.33?
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Postby GasmaskAvenger » Sun May 15, 2011 1:03 pm

Sachi...you forgot a part


after the credits and before the Final preview, there's a scene in SEELE where the monoliths are talking to a mysterious woman


and for some reason...all you can make out in the scene, due to the really bad quality of the leak, has short hair and a Nerv uniform


lemme tell ya, it was pretty creepy ;)
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Postby Seele00TextOnly » Sun May 15, 2011 1:03 pm

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Postby SaltyJoe » Sun May 15, 2011 1:06 pm

Yup, people are getting bored waiting for Q.
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Postby GasmaskAvenger » Sun May 15, 2011 1:06 pm

View Original PostSeele00TextOnly wrote:I strongly dislike Rei experiencing memory loss again unless they somehow had to make a new one, but even then I think that would be pretty sad to revisit.

no, from what I gather, it was not memory loss, but it was her trying to pretend that the events inside Zeruel didn't happen

thus it was survivor guilt and trauma that had her pretend that she forgot :P
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Postby Sachi » Sun May 15, 2011 1:11 pm

I forgot nothing; this was directly translated from a (very fucking vivid) dream I had last night. Blame my unconscious mind, if you'd like.

Although, I did leave out the entire aspect of a Maes Hughes/Zeruel hybrid. Yes, a character in this was essentially Zeruel's unwrapped form, with Maes Hughes' face, and he was fighting alongside Shinji and Asuka against the 11th Angel, as well as with Mari against the 12th and 13th Angels.
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Postby GasmaskAvenger » Sun May 15, 2011 1:12 pm

it wasn't a dream, Sachi


it's a really mysterious leak found on a Bulgarian torrent site run by some guys from the Island of Aspergia and a Russian Clown/Pimp


you aren't dreaming, it's really out there
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Postby Stryker » Sun May 15, 2011 5:08 pm

View Original PostSachi wrote:I forgot nothing; this was directly translated from a (very fucking vivid) dream I had last night.


Well, didn't you have a great dream? Or is it a premonition? But I think the craziest thing about this, is that it works. I'll explain how if you don't believe me.


I've had premonitions before. Super fucked up, but they're pretty badass when it happens. Although.. you remember your dreams quite well. I can't at all, if I ever do dream.
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Postby Xard » Sun May 15, 2011 5:31 pm

As expected, Anno fucked it up

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Postby GasmaskAvenger » Sun May 15, 2011 5:35 pm

I'll say that 3.0 had some moments of moderate stupidity, but Final is gonna be killer with the WTF worthy stinger at the end of 3.0
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Postby Stryker » Sun May 15, 2011 5:42 pm

View Original PostGasmaskAvenger wrote:I'll say that 3.0 had some moments of moderate stupidity, but Final is gonna be killer with the WTF worthy stinger at the end of 3.0



I WANT ZEH PROOF!


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Postby chaosakita » Sun May 15, 2011 7:10 pm

I wish I had dreams like yours. In the dream I had, I was playing scavenger hunt in the state capitol and I jumped off of a balcony but I had balloons to slow my landing.

That would suck if the movie was really all just a dream. Or any movie, to be honest.
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Postby Sachi » Sun May 15, 2011 7:42 pm

View Original Postchaosakita wrote:That would suck if the movie was really all just a dream. Or any movie, to be honest.

To some extent, it's reflective of my opinion that much of Q will be mindfuck/helltrain experiences a la episode 16 and 20; this take just wasn't what I had in mind, but it seems like a valid enough route (albeit retarded and the biggest cop-out option one could take).

That said, the pirate thing is pretty fucking stupid.
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Postby Tarnsman » Sun May 15, 2011 7:45 pm

View Original PostSachi wrote:To some extent, it's reflective of my opinion that much of Q will being mindfuck/helltrain experiences a la episode 16 and 20; this take just wasn't what I had in mind, but it seems like a valid enough route (albeit retarded and the biggest cop-out option one could take).

That said, the pirate thing is pretty fucking stupid.


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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun May 15, 2011 7:57 pm

Speculation powers, activate!

Sachi: The pirate part is somewhat...eeeh (not exactly stupid, but it seems as bizarre as the werewolves and Asuka would have been :wink:) , but I honestly wouldn't mind if Q events would play out somewhat like this. Rei blocking things out due to trauma and Shinji becoming close to Asuka (though Shikinami...And if there is a Shinji and Asuka kiss, I want Shinji to be the one to initiate it instead of Asuka ala Episode 15, damnit!) as well as Kaworu actually interacting through Shinji's dream would be pretty interesting. (So does this mean your dream was within a dream? :dizzy:)

I agree with you that Q is going to have plenty of mindfucks in store. Shinji (and Rei) tripping out within Eva-01 while we see what's going on with the rest of (the remains of? Considering the script of the 3.0 Preview says Eva-01 is submerged in a lake.) Nerv HQ. Who knows, maybe your dream is (something) of a precognition of things to come!

Inb4 "another presence" was FAR!Mari or Yui-sama. I wonder why Rei wasn't in the Entry Plug with Shinji when he woke up? Interesting stuff for a dream.

Also, renaming the thread so not to confuse the masses of fans, sorry. :tongue:
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Postby shinji_ryoji_89 » Sun May 15, 2011 10:27 pm

I had a similar dream the other night, except I don't remember much of it. But 3.0 had the vibe of The Empire Strikes Back, basically all of the characters were running away from SEELE, there was lots of action, although little to none of it was EVA involved. And it was pretty flashy and crazy in parts, like the last scene of 2.22.

I would kind of dig it if the movie actually played out like this, Sachi. Although I'd be pissed if we didn't end up seeing any of the stuff in the preview. And it's too bad you didn't dream up a Next Film Preview bit, complete with Misato promising you lots of fan service. Who knows, you could wind up dreaming it up and it would include lots of fan service.

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Postby GasmaskAvenger » Sun May 15, 2011 11:09 pm

on the topic of 3.0 dreams, mine is a lot funnier


Okay, so I went and torrented it off of some torrent place and watched it


all I remember was that there was an angel fight in a farm area and the Reis


but about halfway through, the movie then cut to a large apartment complex at night, in live action and the rest of the film was a rather perverted Takashi Miike film involving murders and S&M


...yeah
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Postby Warren Peace » Sun May 15, 2011 11:30 pm

View Original PostGasmaskAvenger wrote:... the movie then cut to a large apartment complex at night, in live action and the rest of the film was a rather perverted Takashi Miike film involving murders and S&M


Visitor Q? Of course, that could be a lot of his films :lol:

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun May 15, 2011 11:52 pm

This is a dream I had on July 10th of last year (2010), but I thought it was interesting (though squicky, it implies Gendo/Rei) enough to pass on in this thread. It was something of a 3.0/NGE hybrid.

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:No, I don't think Gendo in-character would act like this unless he completely lost his shit.

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I believe the setting of the dream was some "attempting to prevent 3rd Impact/Instrumentality" one; it might have been based in the New Movie Edition continuity but either way it seemed to be a blending of New Movie Edition with NGE canon based on how the characters acted towards each other.

Shinji, Rei, and Gendo were in some pseudo-fancy house (sort of a mansion but not quite. It was kind of run down and not exactly large or extravagant.) but it was out in the middle of nowhere near some forest or some fields. I think Rei was trying to stop Gendo while Shinji kind of tagged along out of concern.

Rei was Rei 3 (she was aware she had Lilith's soul and was a Yui clone) while the body of Rei 2 was just...laying around somewhere on the floor in one of the rooms. It wasn't graphic or anything, Rei 2's body was simply an empty vessel which was kind of weird. I have no idea how Rei jumped from 2 to 3 out of seemingly the blue or with no explanation, but she seemed to have her memories of Rei 2 in tact instead of any amnesia.

Anyway, Rei and Shinji were getting tired of searching around for Gendo (I guess he was in hiding in the mansion) or Seele or whoever the hell so they decided to rest in one of the rooms. They literally slept together side by side as a means of comfort despite all the stress (y'know, with the world possibly ending unless they didn't do something and all) and the way they treated each other was like siblings although they still referred to each other as "Ayanami" and "Ikari-kun". A sweet moment of calm before the storm for them both, I suppose.

Shinji woke up in the middle of the night and Rei was gone. He was panicky as hell at the thought of Rei disappearing so he searched around the house and this is where the squick comes in.

Gendo was embracing Rei post-coitus in his bed. Rei didn't seem to be disturbed by it (I think she didn't really care because her DNA was Yui's. Also, Rei was still hovering loyalties between Gendo and Shinji--she wasn't yet sure with who truly cared for her versus who was using her.) although the implications of Gendo having been a surrogate father to Rei were still loud and clear. Shinji was extremely horrified and disgusted by what happened and tried to help Rei get the hell out of there. Gendo hit Shinji or something (Shinji charged out of RAEG ("You bastard!") and it back-fired because Gendo just bitch-slapped him or punched him) so he wasn't able to do much after all.

Rei was upset mainly because of Shinji's reaction and how Gendo only wanted Yui instead of Rei--his treating Rei like shit, not valuing her as a person with everything she and Gendo had gone through--also made Rei mad. I think Rei managed to help Shinji out of the room--Gendo had already dressed and ran off--so they were deciding their course of action from there. Now that I think about it, it's weird how Rei didn't just AT Field Gendo's ass but I think there was some restriction with her Lilith "powers"; she couldn't just use them at the drop of a hat. What's funny is Rei was STILL standing around naked (she eventually put her school uniform back on) and Shinji wasn't phased in the slightest considering her penchant for nudity. :lol:

I have no idea where Misato, Asuka (pretty sure there was Soryu around instead of Shikinami. :wink:), Kaworu or the rest of Nerv were in any of this, but I'm pretty sure they were all alive and well. I think they were trying to do their part by keeping an eye on things back at Nerv just in case Seele or another Angel tried to attack.


That was about it. Pretty weird, eh? Now that I think about it, the above sounds like an excellent dark/angst fic idea provided it'd be done right. I wonder if it was ever done before.


...Hell, maybe I'll alter the dream material and use it in a fic as a character's nightmare or something.
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