9 coffins (+ Seele's Involvement)
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The number of open coffins doesn't correlate to the number of defeated Angels.
Also, we know next to nothing about this continuity. Kaworu may have died multiple times like Rei.
Also, we know next to nothing about this continuity. Kaworu may have died multiple times like Rei.
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Which raises the obvious question of why he needs those giant coffins as opposed to the a tank like the Reiquarium...
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You need to distinguish between:
1. How things are in Rebuild of Evangelion (or what is true)
2. What we know about how things are in Rebuild of Evangelion
3. What we believe about how things are in Rebuild of Evangelion (or guessing)
Anything that is true about Rebuild is only meaningful to us if we have a way of knowing it. If we do not know, we can guess. However, even if we guess something that is true, we won't know if we're right. Until the next movie tells us if we're right or wrong.
Regarding the coffins on the moon:
- We know that there are coffins on the moon.
- We know that there are at least nine.
- We know that they they are important, i.e. that they mean something.
- We know that Kaworu was sleeping naked inside one coffin and woke up.
- We know that at least four other coffins are open, and at least four other coffins are closed.
This is all we know. (In fact, we only officially know that Kaworu is actually named Kaworu, because his name was listed in the voice actor credits.)
(Why "at least"? Because there could be more coffins that are not shown, outside of the "camera" view.)
Anything else is guesswork. While it's fun to guess, you can't say anything about your idea's chance to be correct if you give no arguments. There are lots more incorrect thoughts than correct ones, after all.
Why do you believe that the coffins represent angels? Why do you believe that SEELE can unleash Angels on the world? Do you perhaps have more than one answer to either of these questions?
If you can argue for your idea, we could have a fun discussion.
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EDIT: In re-reading, I found this post may sound harsh, but it's not meant to be. I mean to invite you to argue your point. Because it's only about these arguments that we can really talk.
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There's plenty of threads in the Rebuild subforum about this, though it's mostly dispersed amongst a bunch of different threads. Google might be better at finding the tangents. Here's one called 9 Coffins. Discussion about the coffins should probably go in that thread.
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Jornophelanthas wrote:You need to distinguish between:
1. How things are in Rebuild of Evangelion (or what is true)
2. What we know about how things are in Rebuild of Evangelion
3. What we believe about how things are in Rebuild of Evangelion (or guessing)
Anything that is true about Rebuild is only meaningful to us if we have a way of knowing it. If we do not know, we can guess. However, even if we guess something that is true, we won't know if we're right. Until the next movie tells us if we're right or wrong.
Regarding the coffins on the moon:
- We know that there are coffins on the moon.
- We know that there are at least nine.
- We know that they they are important, i.e. that they mean something.
- We know that Kaworu was sleeping naked inside one coffin and woke up.
- We know that at least four other coffins are open, and at least four other coffins are closed.
This is all we know. (In fact, we only officially know that Kaworu is actually named Kaworu, because his name was listed in the voice actor credits.)
(Why "at least"? Because there could be more coffins that are not shown, outside of the "camera" view.)
Anything else is guesswork. While it's fun to guess, you can't say anything about your idea's chance to be correct if you give no arguments. There are lots more incorrect thoughts than correct ones, after all.
Why do you believe that the coffins represent angels? Why do you believe that SEELE can unleash Angels on the world? Do you perhaps have more than one answer to either of these questions?
If you can argue for your idea, we could have a fun discussion.
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EDIT: In re-reading, I found this post may sound harsh, but it's not meant to be. I mean to invite you to argue your point. Because it's only about these arguments that we can really talk.
I believe that because of the scene that i just describe to you, Kaworu is an Angel, he was in a coffin that tells me that the other angels are also in coffins, and about the thing that SEELE is waking up the angels i believe it because the story suggest the SEELE has a kind of control of Kaworu so they have control above the other angels.
Like you said this are theories just that, but i think they have a lot of sense, do you have any theories about this topics?
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Asuka 02 wrote:I believe that because of the scene that i just describe to you, Kaworu is an Angel, he was in a coffin that tells me that the other angels are also in coffins, and about the thing that SEELE is waking up the angels i believe it because the story suggest the SEELE has a kind of control of Kaworu so they have control above the other angels.
Like you said this are theories just that, but i think they have a lot of sense, do you have any theories about this topics?
Ah, but we don't know if Kaworu is an Angel in Rebuild. Things work differently in the new movies. We don't even know if Rei is still Lilith (like she was in the series).
If Kaworu were something else (for example, some people argue that Rebuild-Kaworu is Lilith), everything you say about Angels based on Kaworu is wrong. Also, even if Kaworu is an Angel in Rebuild, that does not say much about other Angels, because SEELE controlled Kaworu in the original series as well, and there are no clues in the series that SEELE controlled any (other) Angels.
Also, like a previous poster said, talk about Rebuild of Evangelion should really be done in a different subforum on this site. (The one titled "Rebuild of Evangelion".)
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