Evangelion 1.11/2.22 - this is (not) just a summary

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:09 am

Sorry, let me rephrase.

In NGE (original series), NERV branch 02 was located in Nevada. Is that still true for 2.22 or no?
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Postby qu4d » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:22 am

Ahh that´s better. No need to be sorry :)

Well, we see a truck/logo cleary saying NERV 2nd Branch USA in 2.22

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And when they move Evangelion 03 they fly over canyons, so yeah, I´d say so.

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Postby shadedpain4 » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:03 am

View Original PostHawq wrote:It's unclear which of them he's referring to when he says it, if it was Gendo though it could make any scenes with Shinji (if they get him back) even creepier


I always assumed he was referring to Fuyutsuki, considering Fuyutsuki was the one who noticed him, and that he looks much more like Fuyutsuki than Gendo.

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Postby SaltyJoe » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:43 am

View Original Postqu4d wrote:And when they move Evangelion 03 they fly over canyons, so yeah, I´d say so.

The base from which they launch Eva-03 is most likely in Nevada, yes. If my memory is correct (can't provide pictures, hard drive died on me without backup, and i have yet to muster the will to start downloading 2.22 again), they used Red Rock Canyon as a geographical indicator.

However, that base can't possibly be the same one where Eva-04 exploded since... well, that exploded. If you turn up the gamma/brightness level during the shot of Eva-04 blowing up, you can see that the site of the incident was somewhere in the Appalachian Mountains.

So, Eva-03's "homeport" was in Nevada, Eva-04's was somewhere around Pennsylvania, New York.... somewhere there (maybe Massachusetts?).

BTW, was Golgotha base confirmed as Nerv branch 01 in the booklet, or did you just make the assumption because it was given, in-movie, as the location where the Dummy Sytem was built?
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:45 am

Before the Kaworu "father" talk goes on any further, let it be known that it's a cultural reference (and possibly sarcasm on Kaworu's part). And it doesn't seem that he was referring to Fuyutsuki, considering Fuyu didn't even know who/what Kaworu was. http://forum.evageeks.org/viewtopic.php?t=7076 Specifically, this post: http://forum.evageeks.org/viewtopic.php?p=266963#266963
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Postby qu4d » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:59 am

@SaltyJoe. Right. So we´d better say there are 2 branches in the USA? I dont know. Eva 03 and 04 could have been seperated for testing purposes. And when they moved Eva 03... where did they go? What´s shorter from the US-eastcoast to Japan? Flying west over the rest of the US and the ocean or flying east across the ocean, europe and asia?

Discuss! :D

And Golgatha was my assumption. The DMSYS was developed there, right?

Golgatha is also the place were Jesus was supposed to have been crucified. Parallel to Lilith and so on.

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Postby SaltyJoe » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:12 am

View Original Postqu4d wrote:@SaltyJoe. Right. So we´d better say there are 2 branches in the USA?

Let's just say two bases. Was it ever clear what a "branch" is? The bases themsleves or a continental subset of Nerv as an organization?

And when they moved Eva 03... where did they go?

Nevada isn't that far from the Pacific (Nevada is neighbor to California), so i guess they transported Eva-03 over that ocean.

And Golgatha was my assumption. The DMSYS was developed there, right?

I was just curious whether it was explicitly stated somewhere or not.
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Postby soul.assassin » Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:14 am

View Original Postqu4d wrote:@SaltyJoe. Right. So we´d better say there are 2 branches in the USA? I dont know. Eva 03 and 04 could have been seperated for testing purposes. And when they moved Eva 03... where did they go? What´s shorter from the US-eastcoast to Japan? Flying west over the rest of the US and the ocean or flying east across the ocean, europe and asia?


Should they have to transport them directly to Japan, they have to fly the carriers over the pole.

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Postby qu4d » Sun Sep 26, 2010 10:43 am

One quick question... when Misato takes Shinji down to the central dogma we can see the door opening for a brief moment.

I dont have a HD screen but... there is something written.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9946/centraldogma01.png

Anybody can read that? Right above and below the logo.

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Postby soul.assassin » Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:15 am

Probably the same type of glyphs on the Key box, not Sumerian cuneiform, Hebrew nor Japanese kanji.

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Postby Azathoth » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:37 pm

View Original Postqu4d wrote:http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9946/centraldogma01.png


Good job spotting that; it's nearly impossible to read in 480p (especially in 1.01 where it's too dark to get a good look) but someone with the 1.11 BluRay might be able to tell us what it is. If it is Babylonian cuneiform, that would be another point in favor of Key = Adam theory.
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Postby Killer Bee » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:17 pm

View Original PostAzathoth wrote:Good job spotting that; it's nearly impossible to read in 480p (especially in 1.01 where it's too dark to get a good look) but someone with the 1.11 BluRay might be able to tell us what it is. If it is Babylonian cuneiform, that would be another point in favor of Key = Adam theory.


I tried to get a screenshot from my 1.11 Blu-ray, but to no avail. When I take a screenshot and paste it into MS Paint, all I get is a wall of dark purple. Anyone else have this problem? I'm guessing it's some sort of anti-piracy gimmick. For what it's worth, you can't see it much clearer in 1080p. Doesn't look like any language I've ever seen.

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Postby qu4d » Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:19 pm

Did you try VLC? Theres a screenshot function build in. www.videolan.org

edit: Just updated the first post with 1st and 3rd impact and so on...

by the way: do the other evangelions also have names? Zerogoki, Shogoki, Nigoki...

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Postby qu4d » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:24 pm

Not enough response in my thread so here again :P

Could anybody post a HD-screencap of that scene?

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It´s before the fight with the 6th Angel when Misato takes Shinji down to Lilith... there is something written above and below the SEELE logo. Maybe babylonian again?

I´d like to know what´s that :/

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Postby Natsuka_Chie » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:40 pm

From my 720p:

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From what I can see, the lower "words" are the same as the above
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Postby qu4d » Mon Sep 27, 2010 4:48 pm

Thanks, imho that´s already way better and yep, it´s both the same.

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Postby Azathoth » Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:50 pm

View Original Postqu4d wrote:Image


At a guess, I'd say that's Hebrew; by way of Wikipedia I parsed it as:

רִלל לִ֨ה

Which would say "Rilllih".

Which is temptingly close to Lilith, so if there's anyone who wants to correct my shit-tier Hebrew...fuck vowel points are hard to tell apart
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Postby Azathoth » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:13 pm

View Original PostOrnette wrote:"Lilith" is "לילית" in Hebrew.


Well, I wouldn't assume Anno can spell any better in Hebrew than I can. Those are definitely lameds on either side of the logo in the middle there, though.
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Postby Ornette » Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:32 pm

Well, on the right, it could be "הלל" which is "Praise"


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