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Gundam (In All Its Incarnations)

Postby Eva Yojimbo » Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:25 am

I've always liked Gundam if for the only reason that it's the only anime series I've seen that really dives into the politics behind war. It (usually) represents both sides as neither 100% good or 100% bad, and its focus on its 'villains' as real people as well is something that I think should be done more in anime.

To date, I've only seen Wing, 8th MS Team, and am working my way through Zeta at the moment. I also saw the original Gundam years back but I don't remember much of it. So what's everyone's thoughts on Gundam as a whole and how do you think certain series measure up to other ones?
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Postby CyborgZeta » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:59 am

Gundam X is the best Gundam series ever.
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Postby ThroneofDravaris » Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:52 am

I watched all of Wing and it was the most boring anime I have ever seen next to Haibane Renmei. I read the first volume of the Seed manga and had similar sentiments.

I will go back and watch the original some day just so I can say I have seen it and tell people I am better then them.
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Postby Eva Yojimbo » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:52 pm

ThroneofDravaris wrote:the most boring anime I have ever seen next to Haibane Renmei.
Blasphemer! Haibane Renmei is superb - but on an entirely different plane than shows like Gundam or Eva (or hell, most anime).
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Postby Trigger's Elysium » Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:20 pm

On a related note, Dynasty Warriors: Gundam is going to own, hard.
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Postby Magami no D00M » Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:57 pm

UC will always be number one to me. It's characters had far more bite for me then CE's ever did (of which, now I sidlike Seed greatly), and mecha that weren't of a Gundam variety were made interesting/formidable, obviously this was the case especially in the first series. I myself am watching the original after seeing Zeta, ZZ, almost all of the ovas, and the first Gundam movie trilogy. It definatly has a raw charm about it. It's even a bit trippy at times. Fun. :lol:

As for Turn A and G gundam, I've yet to see them, but I've heard great things. But, as myanimelist shows, it wouldn't kill me to not pack in so much anime to watch at a time.^^;
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Postby Zkh » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:18 pm

MSG, Zeta, the OVA's for UC
G Gundam
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Turn A

Those are the Gundam series every mecha fan should see(I don't know about Victory Gundam as I haven't seen it)

A great series of series. Yet the shows that are crappy in this series are the most famous(at least here) funny eh?

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Postby Tokyo-3 » Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:07 pm

I've seen the original, Wing, 08th MS Team, War in the pocket, Stardust memory (probably the worst).

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Postby Rabid-Sachiel » Fri Aug 20, 2010 9:49 am

I've seen Wing, Original, 08th MS Team, War in the Pocket, and Stardust Memory.

I may watching Zeta sometime, but I don't care about watching G Gundam or any of the new ones such as 00 & Seed.

Also: Wing was the 1st one I saw, it had powerful Gundams, and interesting characters such as Treiz and Zechs.

The Original was good because, since it was so old, they relied mainly on the story, and it had the best plot of any Gundam series IMO.

08th MS Team focused on the soldiers (which turned out badly IMO) and I disliked the animation.

War in the Pocket was, I thought, was good, but I think the story could have been better; and it would've been nice if they were other interesting characters besides Al and Bernie involved.

Stardust Memory-- there were many things I disliked about this one, but basically I thought it just wasn't worth watching.
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Postby GVman » Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:14 am

I've seen the movie trilogy, Zeta, 08th MS Team, Char's Counterattack, and G Gundam. My favorite is either the trilogy or Zeta.

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Re: Gundam (In All Its Incarnations)

Postby SaltyJoe » Fri Aug 20, 2010 11:27 am

View Original PostEva Yojimbo wrote:I've always liked Gundam if for the only reason that it's the only anime series I've seen that really dives into the politics behind war. It (usually) represents both sides as neither 100% good or 100% bad, and its focus on its 'villains' as real people as well is something that I think should be done more in anime.

If you liked that aspect of the various Gundam iterations, give Legend Of The Galactic Heroes a try.
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Postby carla » Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:11 pm

i've only ever watched wing. i quite like it. i'm very aware my liking it might have something to do with all the hot bishounen, because i don't normally care for political intrigue or mecha. :chuckles: i still find it entertaining upon rewatch, and now that a sequel is being serialized as a novel i might find myself jumping back into the fandom.
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Postby Beavis of Nazareth » Tue Aug 24, 2010 3:28 pm

I've seen all Gundam series except for V, Seed Destiny, X and 00. I guess my favorite would be 0080 as its "War is bad" message has the most emotional impact here. Turn A and the original are tied for my favorite TV series though.

If I had money I'd probably love gundam models, though I've only built one RX-78 and I lost his goddamn shield.

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Postby chee » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:41 pm

IMHO, The original, 0080, and 08th MS Team hold up the best.

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Postby Halicat » Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:33 pm

I don't have much experience with the Gundam franchise admittedly, but Mobile Suit Gundam Wing has been one of my all-time fave animes since I was about 12 and I'm currently watching the original Mobile Suit Gundam [Just the first episode so far]

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Postby SAWgunner » Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:00 pm

I've always loved Gundam but there are things about it that make me want to pull my hair out. For instance, the fact that such appallingly bad officers are the heroes. Kou Uraki is a cowardly wretch, and Shiro Amada should have been a Zeon, considering the outrageous danger he puts his own subordinates in to safeguard their lives. I'm also bothered by the UC's Newtype angle. It seems like its a justification of the deranged "master race" ideology of the Zeons.

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Postby master_lloyd » Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:10 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rASip2lUMu8&feature=sub

New Gundam 00 Movie trailer. This better be good as the series declined somewhat in season 2...
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Postby KnightmareX13 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:23 pm

personally I like G Gundam, plenty of battles and a story line. I saw Gundam Wing Endless waltz and it was pretty boring.
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Postby Guyver Spawn » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:11 am

Mobile Suit Gundam, G Gundam, and Gundam Wing are the only Gundam animes that I like. I try watching Gundam OO, and Seed but I did not like them at all.
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