Connection between Eva, Angels, and Lilith?

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Connection between Eva, Angels, and Lilith? [2.0 Spoilers]

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Postby Zenoseiya » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:23 pm

Having watched subbed 1.0 and ripped 2.0, I am inclined to believe there is a noticeable connection between the Evas, the Angels, and Lilith.

According to Nervs sensor readouts, AT Fields each have a unique "pattern," generally categorized as "blood type #." The 4th Angel is classified "blood type: blue 04" while EVA01 is classified "blood type: blue A."

Upon the destruction of their cores, an angel's body will instantly decompose into LCL precisely because its AT Field collapsed. EVA01's broken arm is seen regenerating by transforming into LCL then reforming back into an arm. The creature Lilith is continually bleeding LCL. The oceans worldwide are poisoned with LCL. There is a lake of LCL on the dark side of the moon, along with a creature similar in appearance to Lilith.

The exact same pallid mask is seen on Lilith and two other angels. This is a rather hamfisted attempt to suggest a connection.

Also, there is a definite indication that EVA06 was not simply built on the moon: it was already there when humans found it. The moonbase is even referred to as an "excavation site." Was it originally an angel that was discovered and then conscripted before it became a threat? There is no other reasonable explanation (being "built on the moon just to be sent back to earth" does not count as "reasonable," it counts as a moronic waste of resources even with casual space travel).
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Postby Reichu » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:01 pm

Is the red fluid into which Angels degenerate ever positively identified as being "LCL"? (Likewise with the oceans and the stain on the Moon, which may or may not be connected to Angel-goo or to each other.) The most official I've ever seen is "blood", which sounds like a... "euphemism".

Should note that Lilith is bleeding something distinctly amber (yes, even in Rebuild), so I would advice caution before declaring various blood-red fluids in the films to be the same thing. (Never mind the possibly explainable "red LCL" in EoE.)

The "excavation site" is still a bit curious, indeed. Not much has been said about Eva-06 so far except that its creation is somehow different from the other Evas, and it represents Seele's attempt to create a "true god" or something. We're still in the dark about a lot of things (Adams, moon coffins, things not yet revealed...), so there is a definite limit on how much can be meaningfully inferred at this point.

Nitpick: Lilith is described as having a literal mask, but whatever you see on the other Angels are actually part of their respective bodies.
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Postby wonderluster » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:15 pm

Reichu wrote:
Not much has been said about Eva-06 so far except that its creation is somehow different from the other Evas, and it represents Seele's attempt to create a "true god" or something.


Well in terms of it being different from the other Evas, it kind did the whole AT Halo Fly without having to go on a slaughter against and Angel or nothin. Just gliding down form the moon....Chillin...With a halo......



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Postby Eva 04 » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:33 pm

wonderluster wrote:
Reichu wrote:
Not much has been said about Eva-06 so far except that its creation is somehow different from the other Evas, and it represents Seele's attempt to create a "true god" or something.


Well in terms of it being different from the other Evas, it kind did the whole AT Halo Fly without having to go on a slaughter against and Angel or nothin. Just gliding down form the moon....Chillin...With a halo......



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Well,that might be because Kaworu is an angel and has an effect on it.Maybe that's why it had a halo over it's head when descending.

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Re: Connection between Eva, Angels, and Lilith? [2.0 Spoiler

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Postby SaltyJoe » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:12 am

Zenoseiya wrote:Having watched subbed 1.0 and ripped 2.0, I am inclined to believe there is a noticeable connection between the Evas, the Angels, and Lilith.

That's nothing new comapred to the original series, though.

(being "built on the moon just to be sent back to earth" does not count as "reasonable," it counts as a moronic waste of resources even with casual space travel).

Unless the Moon's low-g environment allowed for some methods to be used during Mark06's construction that could not be implemented under earthly conditions.

I actually tend to think that the thing that was extracted on the Moon was whatever contained Kaworu's soul (the "how they made Kaworu" bit was totally muddy in the original series, so i wouldn't be surprised if they thought of something elaborate, but clean to explain that this time around).
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Postby wonderluster » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:57 pm

Eva 04 wrote:Well,that might be because Kaworu is an angel and has an effect on it.Maybe that's why it had a halo over it's head when descending.


That's entirely a possibility but if so, then why would they let an Angel pilot an Eva? I mean like, Seele's probably like HELL YEAH but in terms of Nerv, who's supposed to kill those muther***kers, it doesn't seem like a proper resolve...
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Postby AuraTwilight » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:23 pm

Well duh, but SEELE doesn't really give a fuck about NERV's interests because NERV is just a tool to them.
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