How did Kaworu become so popular?

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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:48 pm

Fem-Kaworu?
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Postby schismatics » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:52 pm

Joseph the PRPD wrote:Fem-Kaworu?


I was going to say "gay". :smirk:

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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:07 pm

schismatics wrote:
Joseph the PRPD wrote:Fem-Kaworu?


I was going to say "gay". :smirk:


"Gay" has pretty much been said already.

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Postby BrikHaus » Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:38 am

Joseph the PRPD wrote:Fem-Kaworu?

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Postby EVAANS » Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:11 am

Eva Yojimbo wrote:My theory about Kaworu's popularity is the same one behind Rei's popularity; these characters - especially compared with the others in the show - are mysterious, blank canvasses on which the audience can project all of their fantasies on and, essentially, "fill in the blanks". It's not that they aren't given adequate characterization (especially Rei), but they are certainly much more abstract and symbolic than the rest of the cast. Plus, there's the whole sexually ambiguous nature behind both of them which definitely appeals to horny anime fans and fanfic writers.


I like the idea of a "blank canvas," for both Rei and Kaworu as characters. They have enough of their own personal characteristics to make them individuals but they also have obvious gaps which the audience can fill in should they want to. I think this idea could explain the extreme popularity of these characters as people can essentially "design" a character to suit their own likes / needs etc. Its an interesting point.... Granted I have Kaworu as a avatar and I do like him as a character but then I like quite a few of nge's characters, so at the moment i cant really place why i chose it...

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Postby thewayneiac » Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:09 pm

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Akira Ishida's dead-on performance as Kaworu's seiyuu. Kaworu would not be an easy character to get right. Ishida is perfect and makes the character endearing. Performance is just as important as the character's words and deeds.
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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Mon Nov 23, 2009 12:15 pm

Didn't sound like anything special to me.
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Postby BrikHaus » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:16 pm

Joseph the PRPD wrote:Didn't sound like anything special to me.

Do you speak Japanese?
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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:24 pm

Nope and that's probably why.
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Postby supershinjiasukashipper » Mon Nov 23, 2009 1:30 pm

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shinjidoggysasuka wrote:im sad to say my reason for disliking him had to be the pushing of those yaoi fans. otherwise, i just wouldn't have gave a shit. dosn't mean i can't be honestly analyitcal about him, and your reasoning sir was spot-on.


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Postby Marzan » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:01 pm

chaosakita wrote:
Joseph the PRPD wrote:"bosnian" is what comes up when someone types (e)mo in their posts.

It's a word filter.


lol Kaworu isn't bosnian at all though, especially with all of that smiling

I wonder what else there's a word filter though


I wonder why there's a word filter for that 3 letter word I wrote...Would someone care to enlighten me?

I know too little about Bosnia to have an opinion on whether Kaworu would be considered "hot"if he was a national from that country...
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Postby Mr. Tines » Mon Nov 23, 2009 5:25 pm

Marzan wrote: I wonder why there's a word filter for that 3 letter word I wrote...Would someone care to enlighten me?


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Postby Xard » Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:52 am

thewayneiac wrote:I'm surprised no one's mentioned Akira Ishida's dead-on performance as Kaworu's seiyuu. Kaworu would not be an easy character to get right. Ishida is perfect and makes the character endearing. Performance is just as important as the character's words and deeds.


Agreed. Ishida was perfect
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Postby Rabid-Sachiel » Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:23 pm

Akira Ishida is one of the best voice actors I've heard in anime. I thought Kaworu was his best and his Shinobu Sensui Voice (YYH) was great too.
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Postby Metal Messiah » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:57 pm

In my opinion, Kaworu is popular because the he's so ill defined that he's infinitely interpretable.

This means you can think of him however you want, from a biological weapon controlled by SEELE to an angel who falls in love with a human. Or anywhere in between.
Like I said, the interpretations are infinite.

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Postby Rabid-Sachiel » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:18 pm

Metal Messiah wrote:Like I said, the interpretations are infinite.

I would not say "infinite". Saying that is like saying it's reasonable for someone to say Pokemon is a Freudian dream. So, the interpretation should be within reason.
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Postby Mongoosedog » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:17 pm

Rabid-Sachiel wrote:
Metal Messiah wrote:Like I said, the interpretations are infinite.

I would not say "infinite". Saying that is like saying it's reasonable for someone to say Pokemon is a Freudian dream. So, the interpretation should be within reason.


ok, infinity minus one.

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Postby Evangelionfreak » Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:07 pm

becasue he's sexy and only appears in one episode :kawaii:
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Postby Ironfoot » Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:37 am

EDIT: Previously linked topic got wordfiltered, disregard.

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Postby AuraTwilight » Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:26 pm

He's the ultimate tragedy of Eva, in my opinion.

He is, seemingly, the perfect person, and the last desperate attempt to give Shinji happiness. He's essentially a Mary Sue character that didn't come off as broken. But just like the Angels, the person Shinji believed Kaworu to be was completely irreconcilable with human reality, and had to be destroyed. He was more than the last Angel; he was a fantasy of idealism that had to be abandoned if Shinji was to have any hope of having meaningful connections with real people; and that's why so many people like him, unfortunately. They idealize him and kind've miss the point, since most likely he was a conniving little shit that was just using Shinji. :P
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