Synapsid wrote:by what we’ve heard it didn’t just traumatize him away from piloting but also put him in his broken EoE state: unlike the TV version with Zeruel he really didn’t care about 3rd impact, but loosing what he had left before his eyes was enough to open that wound and drive him into a blind frenzy.
true that he didn't care about 3I at all, but if i have to be honest, i just never got that EoE feeling in rebuild. this is, of course, just my very personal impression of it, but i didn't feel Shinji was "broken." he was, to put it simply, damn pissed. and scared, and determined to get Rei the hell out of there. "broken" to me implies a state of helplessness and, well, "brain short-circuiting" that he just didn't have in 2.0. in EoE he was so beaten down by everything that happened, by everybody he had lost, by the fact that the world was ending around him, that he wanted to be put out of his misery, he wanted to just die. in rebuild he didn't care
if he died-- these are two fundamentally different concepts.
Synapsid wrote:but it seems that her death in 23 was sudden and surreal enough( and he wasn’t broken enough to throw away everything yet)
right, you're right. i had forgotten about kaworu. however, since kaworu's already here, all that does is reinforce in my mind the thought that we can't parallel this timeline to the NGE one.
Synapsid wrote:(actually thanks to Asuka’s contamination and the glowing Shin all of the pilots coming back changed may well be a theme).
...angel!Asuka, glowing!Shinji, digested!rei-II, and then mari going "beast mode"?
yeah, i'd say.
Synapsid wrote:they’ve shown her empty coffin, and then there’s her smirk so it’s likely that she crawls out of this on her own.
that's what i thought when i saw her smirking, as well. that feeling of "the old Asuka is back!" that we got in EoE after she discovered kyoko, only this time she's not in her eva so maybe she does get better by herself. which would make absolutely ecstatic
Mr. Tines wrote:Because it would give the finger to both traditional factions of S/A and S/R.
lol, "fight the power"?
can't say i disagree with the approach. at least you always know where you stand.@kaname--
*salutes* yep! at your service, ma'am.@nickfury90--
saltyjoe's right, i for one happen to think faye wasn't exactly pining, but she wasn't completely indifferent to spike either. the "family" approach is, of course, the idea behind it all, but interpretation is subjective... (i like your username, BTW. yaaaay, marvel!)@saltyjoe--
there will always
be doubt. statistically speaking, at least one person will
have doubts. even when the female character ends up with some other
dude (or girl), there are still doubts.
i guess it's your prerogative if you want there to be no romance between them (and i see the appeal-- it would
be interesting to see if they could pull it off), i just don't particularly see how her "ending up with Shinji" and her "dealing with her issues on her own" have to be mutually exclusive. there's no reason why tsundere's "dere" side can't be extended to something beyond romantic feelings... that's just the most common take on it, and the literal meaning of the word. but since we're talking about breaking tropes... that's the way i would choose to go, personally. in my mind, she doesn't have to end up alone
just to prove a point.
hmm. i guess it really depends on whether you're plot-driven or character-driven...
User-iel wrote:Asuka has closed the gap with Shinji in different and more normal terms compared to NGE.
funny you say that, because i just remembered that the first time i saw the "bed" scene, i remember going "wow. they just shared more in one scene than they did in the whole of NGE put together." it was only upon rewatching that i noticed Asuka at least hadn't really ventured that
much information about herself. but it does kinda leave you with that feeling somehow.
which is why i'm not bothered that they left the kiss out-- they're just doing this in a different way. Asuka's a lot less desperate than she was in NGE, so i think the kiss would be almost overkill.
they could put in a different sort of kiss. would make me
i've been dying to see some Asuka/mari interaction ever since i saw this pic
. (eh, somehow i can't find the original version atm).
i swear, it would be so freakin' epic