"Father"

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Postby AuraTwilight » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:21 pm

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AuraTwilight wrote:Remember when I said Kaworu was a clone of Gendo?

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Postby Duskbyday » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:29 pm

I thought it was cause he may have Adam in his hand... u never can know with Anno
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Postby NAveryW » Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:43 pm

Ornette wrote:That's what he said.
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Postby Otakon 08 Ikari » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:30 pm

Maybe this time Shinji will be the one to fuse with Lilith and Kaworu will have to descend into TD to stop him from causing TI. Ha...Theory's are fun to screw with.
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Postby Kozar927 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:16 am

It was only 6 letters, but it was possably the biggest revolution of 2.0

Kaworu and Shinji are apparently brothers in rebuild or something along thoes lines.

Discuss what you think Kaworu ment when he called gendo his father.

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Postby bladerj » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:50 am

Mari said Shinji smelled diferent then the rest when eva becomes god like, my guess he is part of some trinity lik EoE with him Rei and kaworu.
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Postby SaltyJoe » Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:55 am

I'm almost completely sure that no matter what Kaworu meant by that, it is not to be taken literally.

Maybe Kaworu just refers to the role Gendo is playing within the ranks of Nerv: he is like some patriarchal, distant God, like the Old Testament version of the Judeo-Christian deity.

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Postby AnnieZ » Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:12 pm

I think Gendo isn't his father... literally... I think that's something symbolic.
Maybe Gendo created Kaworu the same way he created Rei using Adam ADN and without dead wife...

It's tooo much soap opera.

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Postby Ornette » Mon Aug 03, 2009 2:32 pm

I get the impression that it's not meant to indicate that Gendo is his father so much that he thinks he's close to Shinji. In Japanese, it's common for a friend to call his friend's father "otou-san". It's a level of familiarity, kind of like honorifics and calling an older friend "onee-san" or "onii-san" (honorifics may vary). Whether that familiarity actually exists between Gendo and Kaworu is debatable, which could mean that Kaworu was being tongue-and-cheek about it (implying a familiarity when clearly none exists).

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Postby Otakon 08 Ikari » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:12 pm

I don't believe that he is his father or anything like that.

"Father" as in "You must be Shinji's father" something along those lines.
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Postby Kozar927 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:21 pm

Yah... I think will need official english subs or maby even the dub before we know for sure. If he isnt rly his fater they will have to change that line somehow. so english natives understand what he is trying to convay.

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Postby AuraTwilight » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:45 pm

I've totally been saying for a while that Kaworu was a Gendo clone in the same vein as the Yui/Rei/Lilith connection.

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Postby wonderluster » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:31 pm

You know, in the case that Kaworu is still an angel, then if Gendo kinda fused with Adam off stage, then as much as Kaworu could be saying it to Gendo, he could simply be directing it at Adam.
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Postby Combs » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:35 pm

Kaworu is a clone of Fuyutsuki. And an pretty cool guy.
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Postby Ornette » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:36 pm

Then why would Kaworu say "It's nice to meet you (for the first time)"?

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Postby wonderluster » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:43 pm

Ornette wrote:Then why would Kaworu say "It's nice to meet you (for the first time)"?



you talking bout Adam or Fuyutsuki?
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Postby schismatics » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:47 pm

Ornette wrote:Then why would Kaworu say "It's nice to meet you (for the first time)"?


It's a clone that Seele made in secret. :nyao: You see they plucked one of Fuyu's hairs while he wasn't looking and then *poof* created Kaworu.

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Postby wonderluster » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:51 pm

And even if Fuyutsuki happens to be a playa and f*ck'd an angel, it's always possible that the father can bail before the birth.
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Postby Otakon 08 Ikari » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:56 pm

You guys are messed up and I love you ^_^ I'm going to stick beside my ideas that he was simply saying hello to Shinjis father.
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Postby roblucci01 » Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:00 pm

This could be a possibility, correct me if I'm wrong:
If Gendo had an Adam embryo embedded into his hand at this point in the movie, is it possible that Kaworu is referring to Adam's salvaged body being in Gendo?
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