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Eva Piloting [SPOILERS]
So far in the rebuild continuity... is it viably confirmed that unit-01 has yui's soul and Rei lilith's? if this is untruth and it turns out all eva's dont have souls this time around, as such why mari can pilot unit 02 and Asuka unit 03, then perhaps unit-01 gains yui's soul from Rei. (unless they have abandoned the concept of souls altogether?)
Edit: split into a new thread eh?
Edit: split into a new thread eh?
Last edited by Combs on Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:18 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Combs wrote:is it viably confirmed that unit-01 has yui's soul
Gendo referring to Eva-01 as "Yui" (when the dummy system is no go) is a tad suspect.
It'll be hard to explain a lot of the weirdness that happens at the end of 2.0 unless Rei has a "special" soul.
Eva-03 could possibly be explained if the Eva "core units" allow quick soul swapping between Evas. Like you don't have to surgically remove the core itself, you just have to take out the soul-containing "core unit", whatever the hell that is.
Mari can do whatever she wants because she's a space robot.
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Desty_Nova wrote:If it were possible to remove the soul from an eva one would think gendo Would have had yuis soul transferred into a clone
Eva-01 is very nuclear-retentive.
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Reichu wrote:Mari can do whatever she wants because she's a FAR.
Fixed.
As for the soul business, it's pretty clear to me that the Eva's and Rei have all the souls they're supposed to. Either Mari is somehow able to haxx0r Evas similar to how Kaworu did, Mari holds the other half of Kyoko's soul or something, or Evangelions in the Rebuild continuity have some sort of mechanism that overrides the plug similar to the Dummy system, but with accommodated for pilots.[/quote]
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It's just plain not going to make sense until the third movie comes out.
1.0 was perfectly fine when it implicitly carried over the soul / synchronization gimmick. However, the moment 2.0 put Asuka in EVA-03 without any particular explanation retroactively made a mess out of 1.0's needing Rei specifically for 00 and Shinji specifically for 01.
NERV's actions confirm that anybody could hop into EVA-02 and EVA-03. The "Skeleton Key" Mari theory is pointless because simply re-assigning EVA-02's synchronized pilot anywhere else already shows that anybody could be the back-up pilot for 02 if it would need to re-activated in an emergency.
Yeah, it's obvious by the dialogue in 1.0 that Rei and Shinji are ultimately necessary to Gendou's plans, but the way 2.0 repaints the picture makes it sound as if there's really no reason to risk putting Lilith's valuable clone and Shinji The One-Of-A-Kind Third Impact Master Key on the battlefield when NERV could have just summoned Touji and Hikari as expendable temp pilots for the initial Angel battles.
1.0 was perfectly fine when it implicitly carried over the soul / synchronization gimmick. However, the moment 2.0 put Asuka in EVA-03 without any particular explanation retroactively made a mess out of 1.0's needing Rei specifically for 00 and Shinji specifically for 01.
NERV's actions confirm that anybody could hop into EVA-02 and EVA-03. The "Skeleton Key" Mari theory is pointless because simply re-assigning EVA-02's synchronized pilot anywhere else already shows that anybody could be the back-up pilot for 02 if it would need to re-activated in an emergency.
Yeah, it's obvious by the dialogue in 1.0 that Rei and Shinji are ultimately necessary to Gendou's plans, but the way 2.0 repaints the picture makes it sound as if there's really no reason to risk putting Lilith's valuable clone and Shinji The One-Of-A-Kind Third Impact Master Key on the battlefield when NERV could have just summoned Touji and Hikari as expendable temp pilots for the initial Angel battles.
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...actually now that I think about it I guess the whole Asuka piloting Unit 03 makes a little sense.
Unit 02 is put into storage (i.e. taking out the core/Asuka's mommy's soul and transferring it into Unit 03) and then Asuka test pilots Unit 03.
Then concerning Mari....eehhhh...I have no idea.
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Unit 02 is put into storage (i.e. taking out the core/Asuka's mommy's soul and transferring it into Unit 03) and then Asuka test pilots Unit 03.
Then concerning Mari....eehhhh...I have no idea.
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schismatics wrote:...actually now that I think about it I guess the whole Asuka piloting Unit 03 makes a little sense.
Unit 02 is put into storage (i.e. taking out the core/Asuka's mommy's soul and transferring it into Unit 03) and then Asuka test pilots Unit 03.
Then concerning Mari....eehhhh...I have no idea.
Just my thoughts.
Theres a hole in that theory though.
Say 02's core is inside Unit-03 when Bardiel takes control of the Eva. Then when the dummy plug is used to destroy Unit-03, as Unit-01 did in the original series, wouldn't the entirety of Eva-03 (Including the 02 core) be destroyed?
In the original series, I remember Unit-03 being completely annihilated, including the core, and I don't think thats any exception in Rebuild.
Heres my theory: In Rebuild, pilots don't need the souls of their respective mothers in the Evangelions for them to sync in the need of basic functions (though the soul of ones mother I would assume improves performance at the very least), and that Yui and Kyoko were merely "accidentally" fused into their Eva's in comparison to the original series.
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AuraTwilight wrote:Unless the Test Bodies during the 11th Angel's attack had souls too?
They were indirectly linked to the respective Evas. What the real point of that experiment was, I have no idea.
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I don't think we've ever resolved what the hell that meant for NGE, let alone a possible Rebuild tie-in......
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