DatDude wrote:I define overanalysis in eva as looking for hidden meaning so hard that you see somthing thats not their.
Right. Then under this scheme, obviously saying Evangelion is a critique of post war geopolitics is going into the realm of overanalysis. However, what does musing on ruined offices count as?
Reichu wrote:^ THAT (your last post), OMF, is overanalysis. Rampant, FLAMING overanalysis. What is overanalysis? In this case, I would say "dealving into trivial issues as earnestly and verbosely as OMF is prone to (often combined with conjectures that would sink under the weight of a cave cricket)". I'm not trying to be mean here -- it's just a very frank observation.
This overanalysis is subtlely different from the first. Rather than with the result, the trouble here is with the method being too pedantic and formal I guess. Clearly my previous post was facetious, however you'll find the thread of thought is fairly logical, if a little wordy. The "over" in this overanalysis means dragging the argument out too long? Be aware this is sometimes unavoidable.
I'm not quite sure which level of detail is now appropriate. My first one line post on the matter, my later elaboration with images, or the farcically pedantic last post. I couldn't really see anything overly wrong with the middle most to be honest.
DatDude wrote:Take a step back and stop looking at eva like its a magic eye puzzle, you might find somthing you might like, I did.
I consider Evangelion to be a puzzle. An enormous n-dimensional jigsaw puzzle with hyperdimensional pieces, which fit across space, time, events and characters. I consider it our task to make these thousands of whirling and seperate hyperpieces, cohesively fit together into one whole picture or interpretation of the series. I'm being deadly serious by the way.
As with a normal two dimensional jigsaw, my method here is first to "turn over" these hyperpieces, revealing their faces, then attempt to fit them into larger "blocks", which in turn make it easier to fit these blocks to other blocks, thus bringing us closer to completeing the jigsaw.
I consider this office problem to be itself a collection of pieces which we must attempt to assemble into a cohesive block, with the aim of eventually fitting it into the whole. But is this office matter to trivial or inconsequential to bother with? Maybe it's just not important and we shouldn't bother with it? To this I respond, would you be contented to toss aside a few seemingly boring jigsaw pieces so you could better concentrate on the more colourful pieces?
Perhaps this "office" block will never connect to the others. Perhaps it will have no bearing on other "event" blocks. In any case should we not at least make the effort to fit disjoint pieces together? Is it beneath us to muddy our hands with seemingly obscure matters? We are not so lofty as to have completely solved all of Evangelion's mysteries, and we remain as ignorent as ever to some of the most frequent questions asked of the series.
You might say that by focusing so narrowly on petty pieces and blocks that I lose sight of the beauty and mystery of the whole. I might be unweaving the rainbow, but in so doing I'm threading the ribbons into what I consider a more marvelous cloth, one in which I can see and understand both the whole and the part. I haven't lost sight of complete picture. I've mearly gained insight into the smaller sights as well.
I'm going to try and "solve" this puzzle, because I believe it can
be done. I'm not going to declare this task intractable and walk away unsatisfied. I'm going to try and do this, as ever, one step at a time. With each assembly of pieces I believe I'm getting one step closer to a better solution. Even if blocks are smashed apart by new revelations, or must be disassembled by the appearance of conflicts, even if I have to tear everything apart and start again, I still think I'll be that bit closer to precipitating order out of the chaos. And I consider my time well spent.
Having harangued you all for far too long, I'll just finish up by saying that I don't consider this office matter of any great significance or importance. Nonetheless I think it is a problem, however small, and I think we can find a solution to it. If not us, then who else?