What exactly was cut out of/put into "Death(True)2"

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What exactly was cut out of/put into "Death(True)2"

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Postby Twsa'teotu » Mon Apr 06, 2009 6:17 pm

Quick question probably answered somewhere else but looking for a quick answer:

Wikipedia says this:

"Death & Rebirth" (Rebirth being the first half of End of Eva) had "Death", a clip show of the series with Director's Cut material they knew they'd cut out and put into episodes 21 through 24.

So the "new stuff" in "Death" is those scenes, and the redone "Rei smiling in episode 6" scene

Then, "Death(true)" was a satellite TV version that just cut out ALL of the new stuff, utterly worthless

It has this to say about the last version:

The second edit was Death(true)², which reincorporated the image of Adam on Gendo Ikari's hand, and had several scenes taken out.


*IS* the image of Adam in Gendo's hand, also in the Director's Cut (Platinum) DVD release? Why would they put ONLY that back in to the Death (true)2 version, even if it was indeed, already in the Director's Cut.

And what are these other "several scenes" that are in Death(true)2?

Essentially *if I have the Platinum DVDs*, what possible difference is there, what new thing to see, in "Death(true)2"?
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Postby Reichu » Tue Apr 07, 2009 7:38 am

I guess this is better than the non-reply you're getting:

http://forum.evageeks.org/viewtopic.php?p=209217#209217

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Postby Twsa'teotu » Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:00 am

Yes, that's the cover. (But that URL looks hotlinked to me...)

The cut of Gendo with Adam is hardly the only "director's cut"-type footage left in TRUE^2. More prominent examples include the camera footage from the UN Antarctic base and Fuyutsuki & Yui's chat at the Ashinoko levee, but you'll find the stuff scattered throughout.

Going by the DEATH film book, what was cut out is an Asuka flashback/"mind rape" section between Kaji's death and Kaworu's appearance, including footage such as the monologue at the bathtub, Asuka shoving her boobs in Kaji's face, and "Who are you?" / "No! This isn't me!" scene. The only other difference I've been able to detect from the filmbook is that the shot of Misato flashed during Kensuke's chat with Shinji was redone for TRUE or TRUE^2.

Yeah, I know, scans. :p


Let me get this straight...TRUE^2 has a few, but not ALL, of the Director's Cut scenes restored.....but that doesn't change the fact that these scenes are already in the Director's Cut?


So what, if anything, do I see in TRUE^2 that I don't see in Platinum?


I would assume, the children playing their instruments in that fantasy scene?
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Postby Reichu » Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:47 am

but that doesn't change the fact that these scenes are already in the Director's Cut?

Well... they weren't when DEATH originally came out.

Some material is exclusive to DEATH and its incarnations. Most are just redone versions of preexisting cuts.

TOTALLY NEW

- "ensemble" scenes
- Closeup of Rei after falling off her bed-on-wheels
- Rei 1 seeing Kaworu as she dies
- Asuka sitting at kitchen table (added as insert prior to Shinji meeting Kaworu) [not in original Death?]
- Closeup of angel statue
- Angel statue during credit scroll

RETAKES

- Closeups of Eva-01 as she slides towards Shamshel (#03)
- Ritsuko, Maya, and Misato observing Shinji in training (#03)
- Misato smiling at Kensuke and Toji (#04) [redone once for DEATH and then AGAIN for DEATH TRUE or DEATH TRUE^2]
- Kensuke's tent (#04)
- Misato & Shinji at train station (#04)
- Rei giving Shinji food and a briefing (#06)
- Rei saying "Farewell" (#06)
- Shinji & Rei ("just smile") (#06)
- Adam spreading wings (#12)

NOTES

- Video footage from Second Impact presented in "clean" format (versus camcorder format as in #21').
- Ashinoko levee "tree" shot is different from the one found in #21'.
- Cut of Shinji "clapping" Yui's face also different
- Panning Rei tank shot different from the one found in #23'.
- Cut of Asuka saying "Liar" to Shinij is cropped in #24'. (I.e., you see more of the image here.)

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Postby Twsa'teotu » Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:48 am

- Rei 1 seeing Kaworu as she dies


wtf?

Thank you for the long list.
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