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Postby bloodangel [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:39 am

AMEN to that brotha,

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 12:36 GMT

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Postby Shinji_Ikari [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:39 am

Ok hello. I am going to announce the money for donations total = $4.35 has been returned to the donators.
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Also, who ever Greg is You have gotten what you wanted. We are shutting down at 6:00 pm today. The site is going down as well. Apparently when you told the government that we were a child porn flick it did the trick.

Any info you want to discuss email me. I have a lot of things i must do right now so I cannot ready the posts above untill I get home.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 14:50 GMT

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Postby Samurai Drifter [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

^ Image

I don't know who this Greg guy is, but that's pretty funny. Oh well, he put your project out of its misery.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 15:25 GMT

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Postby PronsAmuro [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

Are you serious? Some guy named Greg?

Coincedently... I know someone on here named Greg and he happens to be Leader Desslock. Of course, that seems too below Desslock.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 15:37 GMT

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Postby Samurai Drifter [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

Yeah, Desslock wouldn't do that.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 15:39 GMT

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Postby PronsAmuro [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

..Infact, I'd go as far to say he probably wanted this thing to work out more than all of us.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 15:45 GMT

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Postby kiyomi [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

Desslocks real name is Greg??????!!!!!!!

Funny..he doesn't look like a "Greg" to me...

Oh well, Shinji, your project failed. Told you that you could not pull off something that epic on a shoestring budget. It's like me trying to become a white-blonde hair-blue eyed-Pamela Anderson-duplicate.
Can't be done.
WISH it could be done...
But can't......
The end.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 15:49 GMT

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Postby Nano [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

Of course he looks like a Greg!

sorry man, better luck next time eh.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 15:58 GMT

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Postby kiyomi [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

Does NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby Samurai Drifter [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

DOES TOO.

Wait a sec.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 16:09 GMT

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Postby Soluzar [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

Shinji_Ikari wrote:Also, who ever Greg is You have gotten what you wanted. We are shutting down at 6:00 pm today. The site is going down as well. Apparently when you told the government that we were a child porn flick it did the trick.
I don't imagine even for a second that the government would just believe that without proof. Previously, I thought you were just deluded. Now I'm leaning towards this having been a hoax.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 16:49 GMT

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Postby Nano [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

I've seen him in that priest outfit, but I wonder what he looked like when he was young.

BTW, DOES TOO!

Was it a hoax? Is he going to jump out and shout "You just got punked!"?

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 16:57 GMT

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Postby Samurai Drifter [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

Even if it WAS all a hoax, some of the best threads on AN have come out of it.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 17:14 GMT

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Postby Nano [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

Yeah I guess you're right, good stuff.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 17:24 GMT

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Postby Leader Desslock [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:40 am

Yes, my name is Greg. No, I didn't call the government and tell them that he was making a child porn flick. Image

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Ah. Your church finally got sick of you pirating their bandwidth, did they? I had to wonder what you were thinking there...

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 17:27 GMT

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Postby Haro! [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:41 am

kiyomichan wrote:Oh well, Shinji, your project failed. Told you that you could not pull off something that epic on a shoestring budget. It's like me trying to become a white-blonde hair-blue eyed-Pamela Anderson-duplicate.
Can't be done.
WISH it could be done...
But can't......
Nooooo! Kiyomichan you're fine just the way you are.

Haha child-porn that has to be the funniest/dumbest excuse. Though your little IM conversation did strongly hint at your desire to do so. Anyway, I was looking forward to this lasting longer.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 17:38 GMT

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Postby kiyomi [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:41 am

wowwww..will revelations cease to amaze me...ahhh,,,nope!!

Greg, huh?? I still say you look more like..I dunno...maybe a Michael..or a Charles...maybe even a Heathcliff....

Yeah Nanochan..GREG..in a PRIEST outfit..the name just doesn't add up to his face, does it?? Lets call him St. George.... Image

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 18:51 GMT

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Postby Bernard_Monsha [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:41 am

Leader Desslock wrote:Ah. Your church finally got sick of you pirating their bandwidth, did they? I had to wonder what you were thinking there...
And God did smite Shinji for stealing that bandwidth which was his.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 19:26 GMT

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Postby Leader Desslock [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:41 am

@kiyomichan - Not "Father Gregory"? Ah, well. If it helps you can call me Ishmael. That was my nickname for a while. As for what I looked like growing up? Pale, very skinny, crooked eyes - not much to look at, really.

ANYHOO - if I had to guess what's going on with Shinji, it's a combination of two factors:

1) With direct feedback on his effects, he's finally realized how hard this will be and is quitting, just like he did his Trigun game. I doubt this is the primary factor, however.

2) His church probably read him the riot act for hosting his forums and his file downloads on their website. This, I think, is more immediately relevant. Image

There may be other factors involved (ADV finally sending a C&D, actors wondering when they're supposed to start, etc.), but I expect he'll fill us in on the details when he gets time. Or not. Doesn't much matter now, does it?


So yes, I did get involved. I did not call "the government". There is no way to call "the government". This is a civil matter, so there's nobody in "the government" who would care. The only people who would care would be the North American licensor, in this case ADV.

Remember back in the other thread where I gave Shinji one week to produce evidence that this was not a hoax? Actually, I gave him a week and a half. And he didn't produce any sort of evidence, so I operated based on that assumption and called ADV directly. Dumber than a box of rocks, I can tell you - one of the most painful calls I've ever had to suffer through. When I *finally* managed to get it through their heads what was going on, they were fairly well irritated.

Long story short: they thought Shinji's little project might make waves for the REAL live action project (which has already had its share of problems), and they didn't want to risk that. They wanted to send in the national guard (darn near), but instead they agreed to a Cease And Desist.

Why did I call the licensor? Well, I thought this was a hoax. Even after seeing Shinji's little effects clip he just posted (the first proof he's done ANYTHING), I still give it a > 50% chance of being a hoax. But on the off chance I was wrong, I still: a) called the licensor so not to start a paper trail on Shinji, and b) I stressed heavily that this was a high school kid and a fan project, so harsh legal action wasn't necessary.

But again, why did I call? Well, if the kid was a hoax, it needed to be shut down. If not, then an idealistic kid was talking about spending a whole lot of money he didn't have for something he obviously couldn't do, and which might eventually get him sued if he distributed it. Rapping him with a C&D was the least of his worries, and it might actually get him to start thinking about a real project in a real manner.

SO - after that, I let it go. I do have a whole collection of info on Shinji, including archives of his web updates, his personal info, and pretty much all the evidence anyone would need to put together a court case and send him to jail. I've never given this to ADV, but I kept it around, just in case it was ever PROVEN that this was a scam. In which case I'd have turned the entire case file over to ADV and let Shinji fry.

I didn't do that, however. I nearly did when he started lying to us outright, but if truth be told, that was just too entertaining to stop. And it turned up some additional info on him, which was handy to have.

As soon as I noticed that he'd hosted his forum and his downloads on the Trail Blazer Missions site, I did contact their director to warn her. If this did become a legal issue, then the involvement of his church organization would've gotten him in some SERIOUS hot water (with the church protecting its image), so I thought it was best they kicked those files off their website. I sent them an FYI, and it appears the offending files have now been removed. I'm sure Shinji got a stern dressing-down from the folks at Trail Blazer, and if he was formerly doing any web design for them, I'd guess that's ended.


All in all, it sounds like Shinji's finally reaping what he had sown. A good lesson in how NOT to run a hoax, in my opinion. It could've been a lot worse. I could've gotten him expelled, for example - contemplated it, in fact. But it was always that 1% chance that I might be wrong that made me limit my actions to scaring him straight, rather than smiting him with the Wave Motion Gun. That 1% also obligated me to give him warning of every single action I took, along with a way to prevent me from taking that action. He chose his consequences deliberately, and with foreknowledge of them. You can't save a fool from himself.

I'll be interested to hear what's happening on his end. Image


Of course, Shinji - if you actually DID want to make a film, there's nothing stopping you at all. You've got everything assembled to make Any Other Science Fiction / Mecha Film you might want. All you have to do is get a script and start. And you could even sell it.

...that's if you were ever serious, which the safe money still says you weren't.

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 19:45 GMT

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Postby kiyomi [ANF] » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:41 am

daaaauuuummmmmmmmm!!!!

*Kiyomichan bows before the great Father GEORGE*

We're not worthy!!!!!!!
We're not worthy!!!!!!!

You rock, Dessdude! Image

Originally posted on: 09-May-2006, 19:52 GMT


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