Go Hikari!
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No, Yui's the one who wanted to be god, Keel said that "creating a supreme being is unacceptable" another member of SEELE said that "no one should weild such power" and being the fan of John Locke that I am I whole heartedly agree with SEELE on this issue.
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 08:38 GMT
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 08:38 GMT
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No one's really evil, but Yui's wasn't all that great herself, she planned on 3I every bit as much as Keel & co, and Gendo. Her version just left her to go off and supposedly start life somewhere else as a god. Yui wanted to stop SEELE's plan only so she could fulfill her own wishes. Poor Shinji, great parents don't ya think?
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 08:42 GMT
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 08:42 GMT
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Seele08 wrote:another member of SEELE said that "no one should weild such power".
I read that sort of statement as containing a silent "else", given who was speaking.
That's why creating a Friendly AI to be SysOp is essential.
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No Hikari, but more girl-Shinji. That does seem to be a persistent meme.
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 08:47 GMT
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I think, if I wouldn't want to already, I'd definetly want to be on Yui's good side. But y'know, SEELE and Gendou seem decidedly more...cutthroat than Yui.
I'm probably inviting discussion on how Yui allowed Asuka and Eva 02 to be slaughtered and other tasty morsels with this.
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 08:47 GMT
I'm probably inviting discussion on how Yui allowed Asuka and Eva 02 to be slaughtered and other tasty morsels with this.
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 08:47 GMT
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Seele08 wrote:Since I detest Yui, and just about anyone who thinks they're good enough to be god, the ultimate arrogance I can't really say I prefer her in any form.
It's hardly arrogance, since it implies sacrificing everything and suffering in complete solitude for what stands to be billions upon billions of years to satisfy an obligation to humanity as a whole (which far transcends our own species). In a very real sense, she is the hero of NGE, without whom everything would have ended in complete ruin. She is also used by Anno, along with the other two SoLs, to impart to the audience his ultimate message about life and how to find happiness. Although, of course, Shinji and Asuka are used to show how the harsh reality of life makes it difficult to attain that happiness in the final scene.
Detesting Yui is simply missing the entire point of her character and how absolutely CRITICAL she is to the story, in my humble opinion. Siding with Seele, the antagonists of the story, is probably missing the point, too. They are the ones who have abandoned all hope and simply want to destroy everyone, including themselves, to return to the pure and original state that is virtually equivalent to death itself. NGE is trying to tell the audience to LIVE and find happiness, not to give up and seek death. That's not to say that you can't be a fan -- of course you can -- only that I think you should recognize the roles that these characters are satisfying in the story. (Note disclaimers.)
mm3, read my huge-arse threads if you care about how Yui fits into things. The Rei/Kaworu one and the Yui/Kyoko one are especially relevant, although they will probably eat up a couple of hours and will hurt your brain a lot. Keep the serious conversation there, please, and most of this has been AMPLY covered already besides. This is an image/spam thread.
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 08:48 GMT
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millinniummany3 wrote:I'm probably inviting discussion on how Yui allowed Asuka and Eva 02 to be slaughtered.
Covered somewhere in here, if memory serves.
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Gratuitous Asuka
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 08:50 GMT
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I just don't like Yui and never will, trying to attain godhood in my mind is the ultimate immorality (as I beleive that weilding absolute power over even one person without any form of consent is immoral, and determing the fate of entire race by your lonesome makes it that much worse, at least SEELE wasn't one person whistling in the dark), besides if she's going to start life somewhere else she ain't gonna be lonely. SEELE just wanted to end pain/suffering/loneliness and thanks to Gendo's brilliant HCP they latched onto a very baaaaad idea. Originaly they just wanted to stop the angels, and evolve humanity Yui said it herself.
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 08:54 GMT
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 08:54 GMT
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SEELE just appeals to me for two reason, first they have a cyborg, and cyborgs are teh 1337, second of all its based partly on my own personal philosophy on religion and my belief that the idea of the power of god is immoral. That is probably born out of years spent in my parent's fundamental baptist church and all the crap I experienced there (lets just say an logical aspie in a church full of religious nuts doesn't mix well), and my love of the writings of Locke.
Originally posted on: 24-Jan-2006, 21:11 GMT
Originally posted on: 24-Jan-2006, 21:11 GMT
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Are you going to have a harpy statue commisioned or something? Thousands of years from now some future civilization will dig up the Harpy Works commisioned by Treize X:The Ryousanki King. They will be placed in muesems that house "ancient modern art". Museum goers will marvel at them and say. What the heck is it?
Looky EVA-00 as a baby
http://www.thefetus.net/page.php?id=114
don't click if you are squeamish. That tube over its eye, is its nose, yes the nostrils are above the eye just like its "supposed" to be.
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 03:22 GMT
Looky EVA-00 as a baby
http://www.thefetus.net/page.php?id=114
don't click if you are squeamish. That tube over its eye, is its nose, yes the nostrils are above the eye just like its "supposed" to be.
Originally posted on: 25-Jan-2006, 03:22 GMT
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