SeanTucker wrote:"Giga Drill Break" = fail

"GIGA... DURRIIIIRUUU... BUREEAAAAAKAAAHHHH" = epic fucking win

(Yes, I prefer the fansub to the official sub/dub by a massive margin. Bandai didn't just drop the ball, they threw it off a goddamn cliff.)

Breaking news: Licensing company refuses to pamper one fan, chooses professional approach instead

It's not like it changes the outcome or the move itself. STOP ARGUING ABOUT IT LIKE A BUNCH OF WEEABOO FAGS! Love y'all!

A lot of this is just arguing over the differences between USAn and Japanese vowel values (for which I confess to preferring the latter).

SeanTucker wrote:I honestly like Gurren Brigade a lot better than Team Gurren, too. Hell, they could have done a direct translation and called it the Red Brigade, and I wouldn't be complaining.

But I'm sure other people would... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Brigade

SeanTucker wrote:I honestly like Gurren Brigade a lot better than Team Gurren, too. Hell, they could have done a direct translation and called it the Red Brigade, and I wouldn't be complaining.

Yeah, I'm actually wondering where you got "Red Brigade" out of グレン団.　The closest I could find it what appears to be a fanfic, but I have yet to find guren, gurren, グレン, or ぐれん mean red, in any shade, nor communism.

It may be a play or soft form of kurenai (紅) which means crimson. I guess guren could come from that somehow like 神 can be kami and gami or 道 can be both tou and dou, but i've never seen anything but kurenai/gurenai.

cat42 wrote:
Yeah, I'm actually wondering where you got "Red Brigade" out of グレン団.　The closest I could find it what appears to be a fanfic, but I have yet to find guren, gurren, グレン, or ぐれん mean red, in any shade, nor communism.

My fansubbed copy had a note saying that "gurren" can be literally translated as "red" or "crimson".

EDIT:

ZapalacX wrote:People are thinking of kurenai (紅) which means crimson. I guess guren could come from that somehow like 神 can be kami and gami or 道 can be both tou and dou, but i've never seen anything but kurenai.

This sounds correct, actually.

It's definitely not 'red'. As I said above it COULD MAYBE come from kurenai.

SeanTucker wrote:My fansubbed copy had a note saying that "gurren" can be literally translated as "red" or "crimson".

http://www.color-guide.com/red.htm

Guren (remember, in Japanese it's グレン which would be "guren" not グッレン which would be "gurren") is not listed. Not in Katakana, and not in hiragana. The shades could have more than one name, or they might have left out some shades...

Okay, just so this doesn't become a flame war I'm going to quit talking about it. Back to your everyday TTGL discussion.

There is a GazettE song called 紅蓮（ぐれん) which means 'crimson lotus'. It also uses the same kanji as gurenai so that may be it.

SeanTucker wrote:Okay, just so this doesn't become a flame war I'm going to quit talking about it. Back to your everyday TTGL discussion.

Sorry if it seems like we're picking on you, that at least wasn't my intention to do so, it's just you were talking about Bandai dropping the ball in regards to their translation, and then proceeded to list the things they got right that the fansubbers kept getting wrong. (Given that the fansubbers ignored other GAINAX translations, I'm surprised they didn't spell the show's name "Guren Lagan")

I agree with you though on dub Kamina, his voice is no where as good as Katsuyuki Konishi's, and I'll probably agree with you on Viral, as I have fallen in love with Nobuyuki Hiyama's voice, but I can only name 2 dubs that are close to the level, in my opinion, to the Japanese track. But dubs aren't meant to be "an exact replica" of the original Japanese, they are meant to appeal to a more mainstream audience, so they have to be judged by American standards.

I found this "YouTube poop" a while ago. I never liked most of them, but this is hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNy6gRYgSjc

Yah, that's NAveryW's. I think he posted it in this very thread a couple of pages ago.

cat42 wrote:

SeanTucker wrote:Okay, just so this doesn't become a flame war I'm going to quit talking about it. Back to your everyday TTGL discussion.

Sorry if it seems like we're picking on you, that at least wasn't my intention to do so, it's just you were talking about Bandai dropping the ball in regards to their translation, and then proceeded to list the things they got right that the fansubbers kept getting wrong. (Given that the fansubbers ignored other GAINAX translations, I'm surprised they didn't spell the show's name "Guren Lagan")

My point is, the official translations by GAINAX sound a bit stupid, no offense to them. The fansubbers may have intentionally gotten the translations wrong because they thought the wrong ones sounded a lot better, too.

(Yes, I know I said I'd quit talking about it, but when I see someone miss my point entirely, I feel obliged to set them straight on what, exactly, I meant.)

SeanTucker wrote:My point is, the official translations by GAINAX sound a bit stupid, no offense to them. The fansubbers may have intentionally gotten the translations wrong because they thought the wrong ones sounded a lot better, too.

No, I got that your point was that the translator's subtitling, for example ガンメン　as Ganmen, instead of Gunmen was a good thing. My point is, regardless if they feel a name like "Team Gurren" is stupid, it's still the name. Gurren Lagann is supposed to be somewhat cheesy, that's part of the fun. I just still don't using the correct translation is "dropping the ball".

ADV was dropping the ball by translating "無理を通して道理を蹴っ飛ばす！" as "We stick to our crazy guns and kick logic out the door!" I think Bandai is doing a much better job.

Yeah, as much as I dislike the Bandai/GAINAX translation, the ADV one was infinitely worse.

Week after this GL episodes 9 and 10 will air on Sci Fi. I'm assuming it'll be dubbed still though.

Bought Gurren Lagann Sub version vol 3 today. Comments to come.

EDIT++++
Episode 19: "We Will Survive, By Any Means Necessary"
OP and ED both both subtitled.
And wow, I think I hate Rossiu more than I did last time I watched this ep. I know he thinks he's doing what's best, but he just went about it so wrong that it kind of does seem he did it all just to get the people to believe in him, rather than because he gives a shit.

"Attenborough" is now spelled "Aretenborough". Was it like that on the previous volumes?

Episode 20: "How Far Will God Test Us?"
Episode 21: "You Are Someone Who Ought To Survive"
First off, Rossiu lied, people died, had to be said.
Secondly, these 2 episodes demonstrate fairly well why I love Viral.
And third, in the fansub I watched, Yoko said to Nia something like "While I've been gone you've become a boring person... ...Nia.", in the official subs, Yoko says "I don't see you for a while, and you go and turn into a real bitch... ...Nia." I like the official subs better, but it's an interesting difference I think.

Episode 22: "This Is My Final Duty"
Interesting, from the preview for ep 23
"Even warped and twisted roads will snap into place... ...if you kick reason to the curb and give 'em a whack!"

The only thing I really didn't like was their handling of 'chouginga'. They chose "Super Galaxy" which to me sounds pretty goofy. I'd have gone with hypergalactic (though admittedly that sound kinda lame too) or something. I think "supercluster of galaxies" is hard to convey. I also disliked Kittan's "kono oresama no tamashii da" speech. I thought the original was a lot better flowing. "this is simon's...dai-gurren dan...the humans'...no, this is my soul!' flowed better than "this is simon's soul! this is team gurren's soul! this is the humans' soul! this is MY soul!" but i'm really just picky like that. Aside from the copious grammatical errors from the subs (no time to proofread I guess) I was fairly pleased...but the could have used better words than BOZO with kamina and kittan.

Episode 23: "Let's Go, This Is The Final Battle"

ZapalacX wrote:The only thing I really didn't like was their handling of 'chouginga'. They chose "Super Galaxy" which to me sounds pretty goofy.

It fits. Look at how every reacts when he says it. They're pretty much like "What the hell is with this lame ass name?" It's supposed to be goofy.

In regards to the grammatical errors and such, as we've seen, they've fixed things people were complaining about to a degree through the releases. I'm convinced that these really are rushed subs, with no real time to fix grammar and refine them. The upcoming 6 disc release will likely fix these problems.

Also

Possibly the most satisfying image in the show.