Anon. wrote:Kawrou's envisions on humanity were beggining to expand beyond the 'enemy-factor' that the majority of Angels held towards them as a speceis, and so I think his emotional passion for Shinji is more a representation of this.
I would be rather wary of lumping Kaworu in with the other Angels. Kaworu has had the advantage of living among humans as
a human (while, at the same time, being aware of his true identity).
When it boils down to Shinji's sexuality though, I dont think one can associate it with something as black or white as 'homosexuality' or 'hetrosexuality' as I think his attraction to Asuka is merely skin deep, and his love for Kawrou is obvious through the fact that they had a bond on a higher, more deeper level.
I think it's probably telling that even after Shinji gets to enjoy Instrumentality with both Asuka and Kaworu -- being able to check out their souls, up-close and personal, and transcending any sort of "skin-deep" superficiality -- the former is the one whom he wants and need. Kaworu was just kind of a "Band-aid", who happened to show up at the right time and say the right things, leading to a sort of "one-night stand" of emotional intimacy between them that was doomed to be short-lived.
I should point out that the supposed "depth" of their bond was entirely one-way. When all was said and done, Shinji had a good "babbling boy" (a nice guy who will just sit there and let you vent, while asking for nothing in return
), but Kaworu was no more than a comforting face that issued a plethora comforting philosophical banter. He was not someone Shinji knew anything about as a person. Was there even any indication that Shinji truly cared about Kaworu as a person? He was useful to Shinji's fragile heart, and that was all.
On the other hand, despite the flagrant imperfection of Shinji and Asuka's relationship, it is, at least, two-sided. Despite the abuses, despite the fact that they have both seen the worst of one another, they have also shared good times. They come from similar backgrounds. And, when it comes down to it, they need one another -- mutually. There are a number of good threads about the Shinji-Asuka issue, which Shin-seiki could perhaps direct everyone to when he has a moment... That is more his area than mine.
Charred Knight wrote:Shinji chocked his damn chicken to a woman, if your gay you don't masturbate to women, you maturbate to men because you find them sexually attractive, that what makes you gay.
Watch it there. With the borderline inflammatory nature of your words, the only thing you seem to be proving here is your own lack of security in the area of sexuality.
In real life, sexuality is not black-and-white. Many people are not certain about what they truly want and what they truly find attractive; least of all, adolescents as psychologically fux0red-up as Shinji. Also, need I remind you, there are plenty of males who have married and fathered children before realizing that their true inclinations lie with their own sex.
This is a debate. If Soluzar is wrong, provide substantial evidence, not your own parochial views on sexuality. And do it without making insinuations that he somehow "wants" NGE to be a yaoi anime, because he is not saying anything of the sort.Originally posted on: 05-Nov-2004, 23:33 GMT