Aspects from the Rebuild films that you prefer over NGE?
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Aspects from the Rebuild films that you prefer over NGE?
In terms of overall narrative, characters, fights, drama, relationships, etc? I realize that NGE is liked more than Rebuild in general, but i felt curious in wondering what sorts of aspects do people actually LIKE better in Rebuild than the original series (heck even EoE just to throw it in there) besides having the bigger budget.
Mhhh,
that is actually a really good question. I thought about it more than 5 minutes. What happened in NGE was dark, twisted and pretty cruel. At least for the viewer. Evangelion in generel is all about characters and their development.
I can't say that the visuals of the Rebuild are really good. Not to mentioned 3.33 with the CGI effects. But think i kinda liked it (1.11 is more retelling without the hedgehog dilemma) because it gives you fuel for AU-fanfic. For example
Kendrix used it to retelling a AU. We can all agree we wanted Shinji be the "hero" again. We all like him and that is what this series is about (3.33 showed it more cruel). Yeah the visuals are good, the new evas are kinda satisfying
and the non-exsisting plot around Longinus and Cassius are mentioned (not like in eps. 22). The deplacement of some "pretty" music for the End of the World (like Kaworus death in RoE and NGE).
Since Nadia our dear Anno had something special to tell a story and vizualize it. The fights were as good as in the tv show i think. But you are right there is more budget and less blood, sweat and tears.
That is what we need. And i totally missed the Asuka/Shinji moments from the Tv-show.
Edit: Ahhhh, making music with Kaworu ... that is what we missed, mkay.
that is actually a really good question. I thought about it more than 5 minutes. What happened in NGE was dark, twisted and pretty cruel. At least for the viewer. Evangelion in generel is all about characters and their development.
I can't say that the visuals of the Rebuild are really good. Not to mentioned 3.33 with the CGI effects. But think i kinda liked it (1.11 is more retelling without the hedgehog dilemma) because it gives you fuel for AU-fanfic. For example
Kendrix used it to retelling a AU. We can all agree we wanted Shinji be the "hero" again. We all like him and that is what this series is about (3.33 showed it more cruel). Yeah the visuals are good, the new evas are kinda satisfying
and the non-exsisting plot around Longinus and Cassius are mentioned (not like in eps. 22). The deplacement of some "pretty" music for the End of the World (like Kaworus death in RoE and NGE).
Since Nadia our dear Anno had something special to tell a story and vizualize it. The fights were as good as in the tv show i think. But you are right there is more budget and less blood, sweat and tears.
That is what we need. And i totally missed the Asuka/Shinji moments from the Tv-show.
Edit: Ahhhh, making music with Kaworu ... that is what we missed, mkay.
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Final Fantasy 7 gets a remake. I hope it doesn't goes the same way NTE did.
Plus I kinda want to be done with this franchise for a while and concentrate on other things in life. - Guy Nacks
Final Fantasy 7 gets a remake. I hope it doesn't goes the same way NTE did.
Plus I kinda want to be done with this franchise for a while and concentrate on other things in life. - Guy Nacks
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The only facets of Rebuild that should be commended so far are the animation, the score (if cheesy in certain areas), and their willingness to take a risk with 3.0, even if it resulted in a disappointing film. I'll still watch Jet Alone any of the week over Rebuild.
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For me, Rei blocking the slap.
It's one of these aspects that is there in the original, but got overlooked, the defensiveness in her last "I'm not a doll.", but shown in a more obvious way.
Rei showing her on truth so boldly, all things Rei, her so obviously underlined onging for freedom, being told that's she's irreplaceable and how brusquely it was all taken away, oh the tears~~
The sparkling firmness of how Shinji meant to actively do good for once and stood eye to eye with Kaworu, allthough that small light of self-purification that honestly wanted to shine wasn't enough to conquer the dephts of his personal darkness.
Which are also what makes it so sad.
For me, it's all part of the same, big meta- work of Art.
It's one of these aspects that is there in the original, but got overlooked, the defensiveness in her last "I'm not a doll.", but shown in a more obvious way.
Rei showing her on truth so boldly, all things Rei, her so obviously underlined onging for freedom, being told that's she's irreplaceable and how brusquely it was all taken away, oh the tears~~
The sparkling firmness of how Shinji meant to actively do good for once and stood eye to eye with Kaworu, allthough that small light of self-purification that honestly wanted to shine wasn't enough to conquer the dephts of his personal darkness.
Which are also what makes it so sad.
For me, it's all part of the same, big meta- work of Art.
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Personally, I think those Two characters are very different.
Don't get me wrong, it was interesting to see a different character dealing with the same situation, but Rei III was much more 'aware', much more 'taking possesion of her heritage', while ReiQ is much more afraid and confused, and probably would be ironacally Shinji-like, given time... She lacks that 'staightforward' quality, but she's not without wanting to find out.
In a way, Q serves to drive all those vaguel implied horror factors home, of the scaryness of out-of-control EVAS, replaceale artificial soldiers and the pilots being altered, if not possesed by the Evangelions, and the real stakes o what could happen if Shinji made the slightest mistake.
In the original series, they couldn't go so far because they still needed the setting, for whatever Anno once planned to do with it, but now, they already went that path where they preserved it and explored it, so they can follow the destruction to their hearts content, untill our hearts cry and bleed, and gladly at that, at least in my case.
I wish both Rei's all the best, especially mine, allthough I feel sorry for preferring her - it's not any fault of ReiQ's that she is as she is. IT's really jut driving the horror home in a brilliant way, IMHO.
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"Aspects from the Rebuild films that you prefer over NGE?"
Unpopular opinion: Everything.
Though, End of Eva is a whole different story.
Unpopular opinion: Everything.
Though, End of Eva is a whole different story.
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"Shinji repeatedly rises to the occasion, overcomes his own doubts and fears and puts others ahead of himself to the point of self harm. The situation overwhelms him. Victory does not define a hero. Intent does. He breaks at the end, but after inhuman, overwhelming, borderline comedic suffering." - Chuckman talking about Shinji as a hero
Final Fantasy 7 gets a remake. I hope it doesn't goes the same way NTE did.
Plus I kinda want to be done with this franchise for a while and concentrate on other things in life. - Guy Nacks
Final Fantasy 7 gets a remake. I hope it doesn't goes the same way NTE did.
Plus I kinda want to be done with this franchise for a while and concentrate on other things in life. - Guy Nacks
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The cleaner animation is awesome. The original NGE was also a specticle, but as time goes on it unfortunately looks less spectacular compared to the more recent works. I don't consider this a strike against NGE, as it has wonder narrative elements that makes it a timeless work. But the new graphics are really nice.
The music is also wonderful. I still return to the EoE soundtrack often, but getting the London orchestra was awesome.
And NTE's attempt at cutting long takes in Asuka's preparation to test scene in Ha worked out a lot better than the attempt in Episode 15 in NGE, during Misato and Kaji's walk home.
The music is also wonderful. I still return to the EoE soundtrack often, but getting the London orchestra was awesome.
And NTE's attempt at cutting long takes in Asuka's preparation to test scene in Ha worked out a lot better than the attempt in Episode 15 in NGE, during Misato and Kaji's walk home.
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The Angel and Eva designs, for one thing. Even the ones in Q. No, ESPECIALLY the ones in Q.
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Now i know something: Rei's smile in 1.11.
It is worth looking the movie.
It is worth looking the movie.
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Final Fantasy 7 gets a remake. I hope it doesn't goes the same way NTE did.
Plus I kinda want to be done with this franchise for a while and concentrate on other things in life. - Guy Nacks
Final Fantasy 7 gets a remake. I hope it doesn't goes the same way NTE did.
Plus I kinda want to be done with this franchise for a while and concentrate on other things in life. - Guy Nacks
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QFT, pretty much. Honestly, those are the only things that I can say are objectively better than NGE.
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