Evangelion Re-Take? what's up with that?

[BattleMonkey]

I'm loling at the people who think the sex scenes in Retake are hardcore. Really? I've ran into some hardcore Evangelion sex pictures when looking for a wallpaper one time. Those are fucking sick compared to the ones in Retake. Seriously, the ones in Retake are classy compared to other ones that exist.

The internet has desensitized you.

[Timstuff]

By hentai standards Rebuild is pretty mild, seeing as they didn't even need to use censor bars (although in most comics that use them, they barely cover anything anyway). However, as far as mainstream manga / entertainment is concerned, the sex scenes would be considered hardcore. Personally I thought a lot of the sexual content was in bad taste, but again, it's easy enough to just delete those pages and the story does not change.

If someone doesn't like looking at hardcore porn, it doesn't mean that they are weird or something is wrong with them-- it might simply mean that they don't want to have an image of slimy genitals thrust at them while they're in the middle of reading something, especially since it contributes nothing to the story. Also, not everyone has the same opinion about what makes sexuality erotic, so you shouldn't be surprised if some people find the images in a lot of doujins disagreeable.

[Agentomega]

True. Re-Take really is a large instance of "in the eye of the beholder". I personally found that (save maybe the first instance of sex, 'cuz it's kinda like Asuka's going all out after she heard what Shinji said) the rest were largely un-needed to the plot. And of course, there was that one part where the plot parrots the Misato/Kaji exchange in college... I suppose it's really good that they didn't actually decide to depict each day of the week then XD

[Lucretius]

The original series had pointless mech battles; Re-take has pointless sex. Same diff. :P

[Timstuff]

True. Re-Take really is a large instance of "in the eye of the beholder". I personally found that (save maybe the first instance of sex, 'cuz it's kinda like Asuka's going all out after she heard what Shinji said) the rest were largely un-needed to the plot. And of course, there was that one part where the plot parrots the Misato/Kaji exchange in college... I suppose it's really good that they didn't actually decide to depict each day of the week then XD

The fact that the characters are in a sexual relationship is very important to the story, but I think it was unnecessary to have such graphic depictions of the sex itself. Also, the 1.5 chapter is pretty much straight up porn, and I decided it was not the sort of thing that I wanted to have on my hard drive. If you take the graphic pages out of the main chapters you can still easily tell that Shinji and Asuka have sex, even if what happens between the foreplay and afterglow is more ambiguous (which many people argue is more artistic anyway).

[Chowwow]

The fact that the characters are in a sexual relationship is very important to the story, but I think it was unnecessary to have such graphic depictions of the sex itself. Also, the 1.5 chapter is pretty much straight up porn, and I decided it was not the sort of thing that I wanted to have on my hard drive. If you take the graphic pages out of the main chapters you can still easily tell that Shinji and Asuka have sex, even if what happens between the foreplay and afterglow is more ambiguous (which many people argue is more artistic anyway).

I could not agree more. While the scenes themselves were extraneous, acknowledging that Shinji and Asuka were having a sexually active relationship was quite important in establishing the mood and the themes of ReTake. The sexual element was one of those things that helped add emotional impact to the story for me.

Ugh. What a stupid scene. It wreaks of the kind of stupid shit you come up with in middle school.

Still... overall premise and art are decent. I think it would have been a much more solid work if it had never went the pornographic route. If it hadn't, I might have actually read past the first one.

That's funny, I thought something like this would have been right up your alley once you got past the H-scenes, Senior Master Monkey. It's strange, I'm attempting to find the pattern that determines whether a fan would like ReTake or not - and so far I am stumped. It moves some people while alienating others.

Not since EoE have I both loved and hated Shinji Ikari as much as I did after reading ReTake. It showed me just how weak-willed, selfish, and - most of all - perverse he really could be, yet how genuinely compassionate and innocent he is. It's also a violent love story: one that has scenes of horrific brutality and hopelessness mixed along with scenes of true tenderness and... beauty. It's not like other shipping fanfics - or even any other love story for that matter; it's not all touchy-feely and the threat of gruesome and brutal despair is real and imminent. It's a man's love story! I know I've called myself jaded, but maybe I'm just more of a sap than I thought I was...

As for the H-scenes themselves, anyone who knows Studio Kimigabuchi ought to know that it is within their style to make hentai that is deliberately disturbing - as if to make the reader feel guilty for indulging in it. So for those who were put off by those scenes, perhaps that was the intended idea. Then again, considering their other works, maybe we actually got off light...

[Zeak]

If anyones interested I have been making a site for all retake stuff.
Sofar all the soundtrack is up. I am just in the prosess of upload each volume.

http://www.zeak.com.au/retake.htm (not everything works yet)

[Indigo Arcangel]

Just been testing it for him - first volume works, but only the adult one - he's still working on the others. Well done Zeak - this'll be useful!

As for my views, well, I'm no big fan of H myself, but I've seen some really sick stuff - Retake is extremely tame in comparison, and it at least has context and importance to the story. And anyway, you can just replace the respective pages with the All-Ages ones. The artwork's good, it keeps well within the mythology of the series, maybe even expands on it, provides an alternate ending, and is a gift to A/S shippers. What more can one say?

[i_Love_Asuka]

If anyones interested I have been making a site for all retake stuff.
Sofar all the soundtrack is up. I am just in the prosess of upload each volume.

http://www.zeak.com.au/retake.htm (not everything works yet)

ok, sounds cool!
let us know when your finished!