[NEWS] Neon Genesis Evangelion coming to Netflix Spring 2019

[cyharding]

But isn't it also possible that Netflix may have the right to be the exclusive outlet for the show in the West for so many months or years before there is a BD release? That exclusivity may be what makes the property valuable to them.

[robersora]

^
Could be, we won't know for quite some time, I guess. For now we can just be happy to not having to commit a crime to watch a Japanese cartoon from the 90s.

Either way, I'm sure a BD release would have never happened anyways, because nobody seemingly could afford the price Khara asked for. So I think in a backwards way this might actually work in our favor.

[Gendo'sPapa]

At some point someone is going to do an in-depth expose with behind-the-scenes data of what Netflix’s actual viewership numbers are because by design they’ve created a system where they can say whatever they want. Netflix’s Ted Sarantos stated over 20 million individual users in the US streamed the entirety of that Kurt Russell Christmas movie over the Thanksgiving weekend. That’s 1 out of every 16 people in the country. With 58 million subscribers in the US that’s over a third of their audience watched it over Thanksgiving. Those numbers are fishy to me.

Anywho, we’ll have to see about a Blu-ray. It probably would have happened soon(ish) after the release of FINAL and might still happen if Netflix’s exclusivity contract is on the shorter end (1 to 3 years). It’s either a few years off or will never happen.

I’ll also throw down March 29th as the day they release the whole thing online. Just a feeling.

[robersora]

April 1st would be good, it's a date Anno likes for announcements. Tho this one might not be in his hands.

[pwhodges]

collectors who are willing to fork out the high price

It seems I blush in purple...

[robersora]

^
I'm in this camp.
I'm deliberating since the start of this year, if I should buy the Eva LDs... I don't even have an LD player. I just think the artwork looks dope.
I already own NGE as German DVDs and the recent Japanese Blu Ray and DVDs... Also I own NTE in German, Japanese and the AllThatAnimeversion of 1.11.

[FreakyFilmFan4ever]

I think that the Netflix views Eva will get (and the social media buzz surrounding it with first-time viewers) will either spur Funi to cough up the dough Khara's been asking, or for Khara to compromise in their asking price. But I feel that Khara's compromising isn't the more likely result. I mean, they're rubbing shoulders with Toho AND Toei back over in Japan with their Shin Eva film. They're playing with the big dogs. They're moving up in their world, finally getting the recognition that they feel they deserve with their Eva property. Studios that do that aren't likely to come down for a foreign distributor. The next few years will be a roller coaster to watch.

There's always going to be a compromise in watching a film in a language you don't understand. If there's subtitles, the eye is being drawn to an addition that wasn't intended by the director, away from the visuals. If there's a dub, the acting will be fundamentally different.

It's not the performances of the dialogue that I concerned about when it comes to ADV's English dub. Its the fact that they tend to add things that weren't in the original Japanese show. Like I said above, ADV added a scene where Asuka physically assaults Shinji off-screen during a classroom scene, which never happened in the Japanese dub. Different actors giving different performances is perfectly fine, but different dubs having a different set of events that happens inn the show is not okay.

I'm not even concerned about some the original English actors themselves returning. I'd just rather that the script writing and technical aspects of the dub be handled more like the "Rebuilds" Funimation dubbed than ADV. (Funimation may have given Mari a bunch of shit words to say in their dub, but at least they didn't suggest entirely different story events occurring off-screen somewhere.)

[pwhodges]

I’ll also throw down March 29th as the day they release the whole thing online. Just a feeling.

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Why have you selected the day that the United Kingdom is planned to leave the European Union?
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[Reichu]

the "Shin Evangelion" name becoming "Evangelion: 3.0+1.0" is an example of khara himself not agreeing with this "fidelity at all costs" view

I'm not sure what you mean by this. "Shin Evangelion" didn't become "Evangelion 3.0+1.0". The two titles co-exist.

Gainax also wanted ADV to call the 使徒 (shito) "Angels" in the English dub, rather than calling them "Messengers," which it what the word 使徒 (shito) more accurately translates into. Gainax could have also been the ones to insist on the "Neo Tokyo" retitling for the English dub as well.

The creators wanted "Angel" to be used because that's the English equivalent of "shito" in the original Japanese version of the show, and obviously chosen deliberately since during production it changed from shito/Apostolos to shito/Angels. I have no idea where "Neo Tokyo 3" is supposed to have come from, since plain ol' "Tokyo-3" is consistently used (in an official capacity) all the way until NTE (where we start seeing some inconsistency).

[Joseki]

I'm not sure what you mean by this. "Shin Evangelion" didn't become "Evangelion 3.0+1.0". The two titles co-exist.

The movie is "Evangelion: 3.0+1.0" for the west and "Shin Evangelion" for Japan, and those are essentially 2 different titles.

The general audience for the movie probably doesn't even know the movie has 2 titles.

[FreakyFilmFan4ever]

^ So, Evangelion uses too many English words "because it sounds cool" for us foreigners to conclusively determine whether or not certain English words to be considered "for the west" simply because it's printed on-screen as a title rather than spoken out-loud in character dialogue. I mean, even certain NGE episodes had two different titles, the opener in Japanese and the bump in English, and the studio was still completely blindsided by it's popularity in the West, suggesting that the bi-lingual inclusions throughout the franchise were not for the sake of the non-Japanese audiences. Eva just does things because Anno thinks it's cool, and not for the benefit of foreigners. After all, that's what the localizers in foreign distribution companies are for.

The creators wanted "Angel" to be used because that's the English equivalent of "shito" in the original Japanese version of the show, and obviously chosen deliberately since during production it changed from shito/Apostolos to shito/Angels. I have no idea where "Neo Tokyo 3" is supposed to have come from, since plain ol' "Tokyo-3" is consistently used (in an official capacity) all the way until NTE (where we start seeing some inconsistency).

Ah, you're absolutely right. I shouldn't be posting before caffeine.

[robersora]

will either spur Funi to cough up the dough Khara's been asking,

Guess who else is playing with the big boys now?
Something I forgot to mention is that Funi was bought up by Sony, so the increased cash flow might work in an American BD.

It's not the performances of the dialogue that I concerned about when it comes to ADV's English dub. Its the fact that they tend to add things that weren't in the original Japanese show.

For me it's both, though the technical side is much worse.

Eva just does things because Anno thinks it's cool, and not for the benefit of foreigners.

I can't remember where, but Anno once said that Eva was made for Japanese people... I've got a feeling he since the changed his stance on that, though.

After all, that's what the localizers in foreign distribution companies are for.

If Anno only listened to them, lol.
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Why have you selected the day that the United Kingdom is planned to leave the European Union?

So that there is at least one good occurrence that day, I guess...

[SEELE-01]

^ So, Evangelion uses too many English words "because it sounds cool"

Fourth children comes to mind

[FreakyFilmFan4ever]

^ See? This is why you listen to your localizers.

Guess who else is playing with the big boys now?
Something I forgot to mention is that Funi was bought up by Sony, so the increased cash flow might work in an American BD.

I forgot Funi was working with Sony now. That's gonna be all sorts of weird, but also potentially awesome things. It's awesome Funi is playing with the big boys, but it's also weird and awesome that an American branch to a Japanese based company (or whatever Sony is in America) also owns one of the leading distributors of Japanese animation.

What could only be weird on top of weird is if Funimation's affiliation with Sony allows them to pull off an ADV-styled licensing acquisitions for various American-produced Evangelion TV shows/movies and such, resulting in a Sony-produced live-action Evangelion movies in the US. That's presuming a whole lot, but the thought of Sony-produced live-action Eva movies both amuses me and causes me to die a little inside. (The latter a little more than the former.)

I can't remember where, but Anno once said that Eva was made for Japanese people... I've got a feeling he since the changed his stance on that, though.

He's certainly far more aware of his international audience than he was in the 90's, but I'm not sure how effectively he can write for non-Japanese audiences. That's the culture that is a part of him the most. Anno's inclusion of westerners in the NTE films seemed to be an example of his awareness of westerners (Mari, for example), but they never got as far west as showing on-screen Americans. Again, I think the inclusion of Europeans was just Anno using them to show to his Japanese audience exactly how global the scope of Eva is, and not because he felt the need to consider non-Japanese people in his work.

If Anno only listened to them, lol.

I should actually compare the two translations and see which one makes more sense to me as an English-speaker. The Khara subs never bothered me, so I never really felt the need to switch to Funimation's subs.

[BlueBasilisk]

^
I'm still mad that Mari doesn't have a British accent. On the other hand, there's Kaji's "English"...

One of the nice things about Anno's work is that it's pretty accessible across cultural lines. Even something like Shin Godzilla. It goes hard in its shots at Japanese bureaucracy but I think anyone who's had to deal with ridiculous red tape and obstructive bureaucrats can relate to it. The Japanese aspects of Evangelion aren't the confusing parts, the 'we're not saying it's ancient aliens but' parts are.

Wasn't one of the Seele council in NGE an American?

[Tumbling Down]

<Politics>
Why have you selected the day that the United Kingdom is planned to leave the European Union?
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It's like poetry. It sort of rhymes.
Because leaving the EU is akin to rejecting Instrumentality.

[robersora]

Now the question is, if her judgment is to be trusted, lol  SPOILER: Show

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[DarkBluePhoenix]

^ Well, I mean she's a director herself, but unless she knows the director personally or worked with them, or is the one being put in charge of the re-dub (insert dramatic irony here), then I wouldn't trust her judgment.

[penguintruth]

If it's in the hands of some one who would bring back the old cast, I have to doubt this is in very good hands.

But hey, maybe we'll get a West coast dub, from Bang Zoom or Studiopolis. Though NYAV is using West and East coast people now, and they've been handling new Gundam dubs well. I wouldn't mind that.

[Joseki]

Now the question is, if her judgment is to be trusted, lol  SPOILER: Show

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I don't think she's been very professional in handling this situation to be fair.