Misato after 3I
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Misato after 3I
I'm curious what everyone's thoughts are on Misato after 3I. Why didn't she come back? What would her reaction be if she did after seeing the ruined world. Misato put a lot of (misplaced) faith in Shinji that he was going to save humanity from annihilation, so I think her finding out that he was in fact the "catalyst" for said destruction would be interesting.
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Re: Misato after 3I
Well it's down to interpretation but the chances are she did eventually come back. My assumption is that what we see on that beach is pretty much just after 3I and Asuka/Shinji are the first two to return. Yui tells us that others can return so I think it's likely that Misato will come back.
I also think her reaction to Shinji would be positive, she'd be likely to give him and possibly Asuka a massive hug after all they have gone through. I think the state of the world would shock or disturb her, but they would power through.
Whilst its true Shinji was the catalyst for the destruction it wasn't as if he had much choice and in the end he was the saviour of humanity. That destruction was going to happen regardless and if it wasn't for Rei at the last minute giving the keys to Shinji it would have ended completely in either SEELE or Gendo's favour.
I also think her reaction to Shinji would be positive, she'd be likely to give him and possibly Asuka a massive hug after all they have gone through. I think the state of the world would shock or disturb her, but they would power through.
Whilst its true Shinji was the catalyst for the destruction it wasn't as if he had much choice and in the end he was the saviour of humanity. That destruction was going to happen regardless and if it wasn't for Rei at the last minute giving the keys to Shinji it would have ended completely in either SEELE or Gendo's favour.
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Re: Misato after 3I
You gotta remember that Shinji said that everyone should choose wheter to stay like LCL or become physical again, so probably that would take time.
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Re: Misato after 3I
Is it possible Misato never joined in the human instrumentally project? She, like Gendo, was killed prior to the actual Rei-soul-grabbing, and that seemed to have excluded Gendo from joining in on the LCL party. I always thought it remained a bit ambiguous as to whether or not she took part.
If she did, I can't see Misato choosing not to come back after reflecting like Shinji did - she may be damaged, but she certainly at least seemed to already understand that you have to take the good with the bad in life and the importance of individuality. It helps that she's, yah know, got an adult's physiology, rather than the yarn-ball clusterfuck of mishmashed, confused, hair-trigger-balanced emotions known as the developing pre-teen's mind (AKA a good Eva-pilot, haha)
If she did, I can't see Misato choosing not to come back after reflecting like Shinji did - she may be damaged, but she certainly at least seemed to already understand that you have to take the good with the bad in life and the importance of individuality. It helps that she's, yah know, got an adult's physiology, rather than the yarn-ball clusterfuck of mishmashed, confused, hair-trigger-balanced emotions known as the developing pre-teen's mind (AKA a good Eva-pilot, haha)
Re: Misato after 3I
Chainer3000 wrote:Is it possible Misato never joined in the human instrumentally project? She, like Gendo, was killed prior to the actual Rei-soul-grabbing, and that seemed to have excluded Gendo from joining in on the LCL party. I always thought it remained a bit ambiguous as to whether or not she took part.
If she did, I can't see Misato choosing not to come back after reflecting like Shinji did - she may be damaged, but she certainly at least seemed to already understand that you have to take the good with the bad in life and the importance of individuality. It helps that she's, yah know, got an adult's physiology, rather than the yarn-ball clusterfuck of mishmashed, confused, hair-trigger-balanced emotions known as the developing pre-teen's mind (AKA a good Eva-pilot, haha)
We see Rei appear to Misato before she dies in EoE, this implies her soul was gathered for 3I. There are also many scenes during 3I that depict Misato, both in EoE and EoTV, so she was definitely there. That means she is either unwilling to return to human form, or has yet to, "Imagine herself within her own heart."
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Re: Misato after 3I
Or that she has reappeared on a different beach/mountain/plain/whatever. It would be pretty inconvenient if the whole population were to materialise on the same beach!
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Re: Misato after 3I
Gendo tangent split here: thread/18431/Questions-about-Gendo-and-EoE/
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Re: Misato after 3I
Chainer3000 wrote:Is it possible Misato never joined in the human instrumentally project? She, like Gendo, was killed prior to the actual Rei-soul-grabbing, and that seemed to have excluded Gendo from joining in on the LCL party. I always thought it remained a bit ambiguous as to whether or not she took part.
Yeah... sorry, but she dead. I'm not sure how they would even allow Asuka to come back, unless there's some theory magic having to do with her being inside an Eva when she died.
On the other hand... she was dead before third impact began, yet her personality is there during the scene where Shinji sees her memory of her and Kaji fucking. So maybe there's some loophole where she wasn't completely dead (or rather, her upper torso wasn't dead...) yet when everybody turned to LCL.
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During the "Komm, susser Tod" sequence, Rei is quite clearly seen melting down Misato's corpse for the purpose of collecting the soul within. The recently deceased were included in HIP and are thus eligible for returning afterward.
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Re: Misato after 3I
jcmoorehead wrote:Well it's down to interpretation but the chances are she did eventually come back. My assumption is that what we see on that beach is pretty much just after 3I and Asuka/Shinji are the first two to return. Yui tells us that others can return so I think it's likely that Misato will come back.
I also think her reaction to Shinji would be positive, she'd be likely to give him and possibly Asuka a massive hug after all they have gone through. I think the state of the world would shock or disturb her, but they would power through.
Whilst its true Shinji was the catalyst for the destruction it wasn't as if he had much choice and in the end he was the saviour of humanity. That destruction was going to happen regardless and if it wasn't for Rei at the last minute giving the keys to Shinji it would have ended completely in either SEELE or Gendo's favour.
Misato always struck me as a cold vengeful bitch that was putting on a "wholesome" act. After the "if you do nothing I'll never forgive you" speech, I have a hard time believing in a positive reunion (at least initially).
Re: Misato after 3I
It doesn't really have to be an either/or thing.
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Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
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