Keel Lorenz and Third Impact
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Keel Lorenz and Third Impact
Alright, so I'm interested in discussing this a little bit more than the wiki cover it.
The wiki says "At some point between Second Impact and 2015, most of Keel's body, below the neck, was replaced with cybernetic implants. Although he uses a visor to see, Keel still possesses eyes (as indicated by production drawings). When the organic components of his body became LCL, the remaining mechanical components were left behind, and appear to include most of his spinal column."
1) Where's the source for when this occurred (just curious). I know 15 years is a huge time frame, but I'm wondering if there's more information to be found about this.
2) Are the other members of Seele also part machine? This point has the potential to completely change my view of Seele as a whole.
3)What are your opinions on this?
The wiki says "At some point between Second Impact and 2015, most of Keel's body, below the neck, was replaced with cybernetic implants. Although he uses a visor to see, Keel still possesses eyes (as indicated by production drawings). When the organic components of his body became LCL, the remaining mechanical components were left behind, and appear to include most of his spinal column."
1) Where's the source for when this occurred (just curious). I know 15 years is a huge time frame, but I'm wondering if there's more information to be found about this.
2) Are the other members of Seele also part machine? This point has the potential to completely change my view of Seele as a whole.
3)What are your opinions on this?
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Exactly when he became a cyborg is entirely speculation, but he notably doesn't have the visor in the photos of him immediately after 2I, so it's feasible that he might be entirely human at that point. We know that he's a cyborg later on because, in EoE, there's all sorts of weird shit left over after his organic parts melt.
No information is provided on the other Seele members. There's nothing suggesting it nor denying it. If you want to make them part-machine in a fanfic, go right ahead.
No information is provided on the other Seele members. There's nothing suggesting it nor denying it. If you want to make them part-machine in a fanfic, go right ahead.
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Re: Keel Lorenz and Third Impact
Keel's younger form is shown in a newspaper article in episode 21. That's how it's known that he wasn't always that way.
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Or maybe he was just getting very old and/or got very sick (like cancer) and wouldn't had survived until 3I without cybernetic part replacing his failing organs, and he really wanted to be present for Instrumentality. (especially if their true plan follows the one depicted in the NGE2 videogame, with SEELE sacrificing all of mankind to elevate themselves into eternal beings.
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Not sure what the problem there was exactly, but I fixed your image.
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Thanks. I was confused myself, I didn't know why it messed up. How did you fix it? (Sorry for derailing my own thread for a second.)
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Also, I understand it's Tier 4 Canon, but in this frame of the manga we see him (or a figure we can assume to be him) walking with some of the other members of Seele.
Is it possible that he replaced his legs with robotic ones as well? Or that maybe all of the mechanical parts were actually inside of him? And he wasn't just a torso hooked up to a machine?
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Just asked for a new image link. Not sure what was wrong with the first one, but oh well.
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are you clicking on the 'sharing options' button or just grabbing a link from the address bar? They aren't the same.
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Seele always has been ambiguous about their ambitions, origin and especially their Members.
Basically it is up to speculation, on exactly how Keel was brought into this condition.
It may be the result of something like a contact experiment with the mass production evas, which resulted into the decay of half his body, or the organic parts might be related to the magi system.
Also Gendo wears a similar visor in NTE, which might hint that he is in a quite akin situation.
Basically it is up to speculation, on exactly how Keel was brought into this condition.
It may be the result of something like a contact experiment with the mass production evas, which resulted into the decay of half his body, or the organic parts might be related to the magi system.
Also Gendo wears a similar visor in NTE, which might hint that he is in a quite akin situation.
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Do we ever even see his full body in the show? I don't remember seeing him anywhere other than at a table with the SEELE monoliths.
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This makes that weird "Ewiger Jude" nonsense the wiki mentions all the stranger, since obviously someone cursed to live to the end of the world would have no purpose or desire for mechanical life extension. Unless Jesus went around zapping people into being cyborgs. Which, given Eva's penchant for odd usages of religious elements, might not seem implausible to someone with the notion that Eva has some truly esoteric meaning or such. But whence came that story anyway? What was the first record of it?
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I believe there's a photo of a younger him in one of those newspaper articles that we see about the aftermath of either second impact or the failed Eva-01 activation experiment, but even then we don't see his FULL body. So I suppose the answer to your question is no.
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