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Postby SEELE » Wed May 07, 2014 9:55 am

My least favorite character. Mhhh, first i was so: "Rei". But then i think about that. The next you can guess was Asuka. But i thought so ... "meh". Then EoE!Misato but for no good reason. Gendo is plausible like Lorenz Kiehl. But then i came to the conclusion. I really hated the J.A. guy. He is a fucking hypocrite. And he made Misato gone mad. And then Misato saves the day. I think the whole cast of NGE is in one way or another loveable. Even Ritsuko and Gendo ... okay they did some nasty things but to me everything can be forgiven. And about Rei, Asuka and Shinji: they are the childs. You must like them ... Rei because she is only a victim. Asuka because she destroy herself and Shinji for being Shinji.
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Postby Evangelionfreak » Wed May 07, 2014 11:35 am

View Original PostKendrix wrote:How so?

Like when he tells Rei she should smile. Or even in rebuild when he tells she likes to read books and she doesn't really care at that moment.
I know its a different Rei later but she still has forgotten and Shinji for the most part is always like 'Whats wrong with Ayanami?'
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Postby Dataprime » Wed May 07, 2014 11:52 am

My least favorite character is:

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Now that's not to say that I "hate" her, I just feel that she is a very dull character

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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Wed May 07, 2014 12:38 pm

I don't really think there's a character I like more or less than any other. I may think that characters do nasty things, but it's more of a question of my favorite than who I dislike.

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Postby Princess Asuka » Wed May 07, 2014 1:51 pm

Mine is Kaworu. First I didn't like Rei, but that was because she reminded me of myself. I have this thing where I don't like people who are like me. He specially headstrong females like the girl who bullied me who shares a lot of Asuka's traits. And because of this I have more males as friends than females. Too much gossip with girls, guys are just easier to talk to, less drama. I do like Asuka, cause she's a lot like me. I'm in the middle with Gendo, sure he tried to the end world and abandoned his son all because he loved his wife. But, the wanting to die and end the world to be with Yui is kinda tragic and bittersweet. At least in the end he admitted that what he did was wrong. As for Kaworu, he's an angel! Even if he tried to befriend Shinji he still was an enemy! I can't stand the Kaworu x Shinji shipping, if he wasn't an angel they could be friends but no yaoi. :wink: Also, manga Kaworu killed a kitten and I love cats, so abusing and killing a defenseless kitten is a big no in my book!

I don't like the homo boy! :irked: I loved in after the end how Asuka kept calling him that! :lol:
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed May 07, 2014 8:19 pm

Pen-Pen. Seriously. Yeah it's cute & all but couldn't they have just gone with a dog or a cat? You know, an animal that fits more in the real-world universe they're going with & less screams "requisitory mascot that can be sold as a plushie."

I really hope that bastard animal doesn't come back in the last Rebuild film.

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Postby Chuckman » Wed May 07, 2014 8:24 pm

Come back? He was prominently featured in Q, my friend.
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Wed May 07, 2014 9:18 pm

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Seeing his corpse stuffed and mounted in Misato's living quarters doesn't count :irked:
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Postby Mike Mars » Wed May 07, 2014 9:27 pm

Kaworu is definitely my least favorite, at least in Neon Genesis Evangelion. My problem with him stems from the fact that he comes out of nowhere and serves little to no purpose other than to die and make Shinji feel terrible by the start of End of Evangelion.

Not only that, but he lacks any real personality outside of "I love you, Shinji-kun.". I know his love isn't really love in the traditional sense, but there is still no explanation given for why he feels this way. What did Shinji do that caused for Kaworu to become so infatuated with him? You can't just throw a character in at the tail end of a series and have him feel so strongly about a character they've never met before and just expect for your audience to accept it, especially when that affection seems to be the basis for the entirety of that character's personality. It almost feels like Anno threw him into the show just to spite the anime community, which was admittedly quite homophobic back in the 90s.

However, I actually find Kaworu very interesting in the manga, and though I didn't care much for him in the Rebuild movies I can at the very least accept him as a necessary evil.
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Postby ElMariachi » Thu May 08, 2014 5:50 am

View Original PostChaddyManPrime wrote:^
Seeing his corpse stuffed and mounted in Misato's living quarters doesn't count :irked:

It's the contrary actually : it's Misato's living quarters that's stuffed inside the bird! :tongue:
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Postby robersora » Thu May 08, 2014 6:46 am

Please stop with all the hate for Ritsuko :(
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Thu May 08, 2014 9:51 am

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You've never seen the deleted scene?

Yeah I guess his body could act as a gateway to her bedroom that exists within a pocket Universe but we clearly see his corpse in the aforementioned deleted scene.

@Robersora The girl needs to get some respect for herself
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Postby Kendrix » Thu May 08, 2014 10:47 am

View Original PostEvangelionfreak wrote:Like when he tells Rei she should smile. Or even in rebuild when he tells she likes to read books and she doesn't really care at that moment.


He isn't telling her what to do. In fact, he makes a huge point of that ("You didn't say it was an order." "Then don't fucking bother!")

She smiled before that, she smiled after that (episodes 15 and 12) that was in no way something he 'taught' her - You won't find a single scene in the entire show where Shinji goes, "No, Ayanami, this and this works that way" or, "Hm, maybe you would X better if you did Y", despite what every single mediocre fanfic tells you.
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Postby robersora » Thu May 08, 2014 11:24 am

View Original PostChaddyManPrime wrote:You've never seen the deleted scene?


What? What deleted scene? There is a deleted scene in Q accessible to the public?

View Original PostChaddyManPrime wrote:@Robersora The girl needs to get some respect for herself
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She's a brilliant scientist; if that doesn't earn herself at least respect, then I don't know what will.
Maybe I don't like all the hate she's getting, because I can see some aspects of her in myself. :(
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Postby Evangelionfreak » Thu May 08, 2014 11:21 pm

View Original PostKendrix wrote:He isn't telling her what to do. In fact, he makes a huge point of that ("You didn't say it was an order." "Then don't fucking bother!")

She smiled before that, she smiled after that (episodes 15 and 12) that was in no way something he 'taught' her - You won't find a single scene in the entire show where Shinji goes, "No, Ayanami, this and this works that way" or, "Hm, maybe you would X better if you did Y", despite what every single mediocre fanfic tells you.
Just sayin'.


So when Rei says "Im sorry I don't know how to feel or what to do at a time like this"
And Shinji says "Why don't you just try smiling."
Thats not him saying this is what you should do? Yeah okay.
The fact that she sits there and acts like a rag doll and Shinji has to like coach her on certain social situation its annoying especially since no one should learn how to be social through Shinji.
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Postby BC Baron » Fri May 09, 2014 12:12 am

View Original PostEvangelionfreak wrote:So when Rei says "Im sorry I don't know how to feel or what to do at a time like this"
I thought she was simply being honest and sincere. Shinji was simultaneously expressing how upset/worried he was that she might have been either injured or killed protecting him from Ramiel's particle beam and how relieved he was to find her still alive. She had never found herself interacting with someone under those circumstances before and was unsure how to respond. I guess she thought she should say or do something in return, but she didn't know what exactly and told him as much.

And Shinji says "Why don't you just try smiling."
Thats not him saying this is what you should do? Yeah okay.
This merely sounded like a mild suggestion to me. Shinji had noticed her smiling previously when conversing with Gendo after sync-harmonics tests at NERV. My take was that he was trying to tell her she didn't need to worry about saying the perfect thing in that moment in order to reassure him. A simple smile would let him know that she was alright. Also, IDK maybe he just likes her smile.
The fact that she sits there and acts like a rag doll and Shinji has to like coach her on certain social situation its annoying especially since no one should learn how to be social through Shinji.

I'm not so sure I would characterize Unit-00's entry plug in the immediate aftermath of Operation Yashima as a social situation, but then again, what the heck do I know (plus, she is not a doll). I guess one person's annoyance is another's heartwarming moment. I found it to be one of the all too rare examples of characters actually sharing a brief connection with each other from the series.

Perhaps I'm alone in this interpretation.
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Postby Evangelionfreak » Fri May 09, 2014 12:25 am

View Original PostBC Baron wrote:
I'm not so sure I would characterize Unit-00's entry plug in the immediate aftermath of Operation Yashima as a social situation, but then again, what the heck do I know (plus, she is not a doll). I guess one person's annoyance is another's heartwarming moment. I found it to be one of the all too rare examples of characters actually sharing a brief connection with each other from the series.

Perhaps I'm alone in this interpretation.


I would consider it a social situation in this show. And i didn't say she was a doll, I said she was acting like one.
I don't mind Rei in the manga. I rather like some of the interactions between Rei and other characters. But overall, her character annoys me. Or rather the way Shinji, Asuka, and the other characters interact with her annoys me.
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Postby Kendrix » Fri May 09, 2014 7:46 pm

View Original PostEvangelionfreak wrote:So when Rei says "Im sorry I don't know how to feel or what to do at a time like this"



No, she admits she's a bit unskilled/inexperienced in expressing herself (big difference) in social situations, which a lot of people are, and I hope you don't believe such things about all of them or say they're "acting like dolls".
Have you never been in a situation where you didn't quite know what to do?
Doesn't "almost complete stranger has emotional outburst at you" at least look like a plausible candidate for such a situation to you?


She doesn't react just because he tells her to, I've pointed it out before, and it's pretty much highlighted in-universe with that inserted flashing picture when she makes the connection - before she gets to smiling, she gets shocked first. ("Wait, he's having this outburst because he was concerned about me, just like the commander.")
If you want to pint to something 'un-normal' in her reaction under these circumstances, it would be that she didn't expect ppl other than Gendo to engegage in any over displays of concern... which isn't that inconsistent with how she commonly gets treated... also, the clones.

I guess its this wording that made this misunderstanding such a common thing in ff, but if they were going for some teacher-like dynamic, you'd think it would have reocurred at some other point.


View Original PostBC Baron wrote:This merely sounded like a mild suggestion to me. Shinji had noticed her smiling previously when conversing with Gendo after sync-harmonics tests at NERV. My take was that he was trying to tell her she didn't need to worry about saying the perfect thing in that moment in order to reassure him. A simple smile would let him know that she was alright. Also, IDK maybe he just likes her smile.


This, the first part that is, I wouldn't even search for such further implications in Shinji's intentions beyond, "Hm, neither of us got horribly killed by the angel, so that's a good thing?"
He's not being a guide, he's someone who is also socially awkward, also not getting much coherent text out in that particular situation, and trying to salvage it.

(Rei: "You're crying. What's the matter?" Shinji: *inelegant sobbing* Rei: "...did I do something wrong?" )


I mean, I don't want to start a huge back & forth here and I know it's exceedingly unlikely that some stupid blurting by me is gonna change anyone's strong dislike for some particular character, but on the other hand, when we have what might be a pretty simple misunderstanding of one single scene that yuo wanna at least add a different PoV on... hm.
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Postby Evangelionfreak » Fri May 09, 2014 7:57 pm

View Original PostKendrix wrote:
I mean, I don't want to start a huge back & forth here and I know it's exceedingly unlikely that some stupid blurting by me is gonna change anyone's strong dislike for some particular character, but on the other hand, when we have what might be a pretty simple misunderstanding of one single scene that yuo wanna at least add a different PoV on... hm.


Im just using this scene as an example Im not basing my dislike for Rei on this one moment. Its collectively her character annoys me
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Postby EvangelionGodMode » Sat May 10, 2014 8:41 pm

Kaworu for me. He just felt like he was manipilating Shinji to me, even if it was his purpose. Maybe 3.33 will make me like him more.
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