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Postby Glor » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:55 pm

^Love all of it. At some point I imagined Asuka going to Heidelberg as well. I don't know why, but her father being a Colonel just fits.
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Postby Ash1969 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:13 pm

View Original PostGlor wrote:^Love all of it. At some point I imagined Asuka going to Heidelberg as well. I don't know why, but her father being a Colonel just fits.

Thanks, I always thought Asuka was a [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_brat[/url].
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Postby Bagheera » Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:31 pm

Point of clarification: Yui Ikari and Kyoko Soryu almost certainly had doctorates in metaphysical biology. There's no way they could design and build the Evas otherwise.
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Postby Ash1969 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:05 pm

I thought in Episode 21 they said Yui was a bioengineering student?
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Postby pwhodges » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:08 pm

Maybe a post-grad writing up, then.
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Postby Bagheera » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:19 pm

Yeah, doctoral students often do fellowships and lots of other post-doc work for a few years after they get their degrees. There's just no way those ladies could do what they did in the setting with naught but a Master's degree; they, along with Fuyutsuki, are the established masters of the field. And, going by their ages, they certainly had enough time to complete a doctoral degree.
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Postby Sachi » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:29 pm

View Original PostAsh1969 wrote:I thought in Episode 21 they said Yui was a bioengineering student?

Episode 21 covered quite a few years. Pre-Second Impact she was a student under Fuyutsuki, but by the time of Gehirn's formation and her absorption into Unit-01 it was already 2004. Plenty of time there to finish up a degree, depending on how far along she already was when introduced as a student.
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Postby SEELE » Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:46 am

View Original PostSachi wrote:Episode 21 covered quite a few years. Pre-Second Impact she was a student under Fuyutsuki, but by the time of Gehirn's formation and her absorption into Unit-01 it was already 2004. Plenty of time there to finish up a degree, depending on how far along she already was when introduced as a student.


Yup, my management m. degree was the same thing in the past years. But by the time Yui and Fuyutsuki meet she was already thinking about marriage. So it is save to assume that it is either Pre-Second Impact (1998) to Post-Second Impact (around 2002/3). I don't remember who long i took for the master because i had a dual appranticeship. I was both a trainee and a student. So it is safe to assume that she was much faster than i was. I dealt with 6/7 semester in my last year of the appranticeship.

View Original PostAsh1969 wrote:Since no one seemed to mind either way about it, here's my headcanon:

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Kiel Lorenz
Alma Mater: Yale University
A Bachelor of Divinity and a PhD in Economics
Born August 8 1922 Hamburg, Germany

Gendo Ikari (Born Rokubungi)
Alma Mater: Kyoto University
A Doctorate in Engineering
Born April 29 1967

Yui Ikari
Alma Mater: Kyoto University
A Master’s in Bioengineering
Born March 30 1977
Died November 2 2004

Ryoji Kaji
Alma Mater: The 2nd University of Tokyo
A Master's in Sociology
Born June 17 1985


I highly doubt that Kaji is the sociology-type of guy. And please remember that Ritsuko and Misato were close to each other. Wouldn't suprise me if (when they were freshmens) had some courses together. So i highly doubt that Misato has this education but rather something similiar to Kaji and Ritsuko - she must have go for the Civil Service or something like that or military education. Kaji to me seemed the kind of guy who works like Gendo. He pragmatic so he must have learned something that would bring him into the higher spheres of the Goverment. And then it doesn't matter, because he was a tripple agent. So i assume he studied something like History or History related. Because his journal suggested that he is interested in the past. Wouldn't supprise me if he had a Master in History or something like that (Psychology or something Art-like). But he doesn't seem this sociology guy to me. It could also be that Kaji is Master in Natural Resources and Applied Life Science.

But i like your Gendo - to me he always seemed to be the smarter guy. Especially because he is rather pessmistic (train-scene where he talks about Rei's name with Yui). Is the Tokio University the 'Todai' we all know about? Because this undermines the assumption about Kaji.
And Keel seems to be right with the education in Divinity. But it could be possible he had something like political science or natural science.
Only Asuka seems out of place because this is based on 'Magma Diver'. I assume that she has a degree in humanities.
Shinji for example seems to go for a performance arts or something like that. Because he is rather skilled with the Cello for his age.
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Postby Ash1969 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:13 am

I agree with you guys that Yui and Kyoko probably had doctoral degrees.

View Original PostSEELE wrote:please remember that Ritsuko and Misato were close to each other. Wouldn't suprise me if (when they were freshmens) had some courses together. So i highly doubt that Misato has this education but rather something similiar to Kaji and Ritsuko - she must have go for the Civil Service or something like that or military education.

Ever head of the [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Corps_of_Engineers[/url]?

View Original PostSEELE wrote:i assume he studied something like History or History related. Because his journal suggested that he is interested in the past.

What's this journal you're talking about? I don't remember anything about that.
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Postby SEELE » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:28 am

View Original PostAsh1969 wrote:I agree with you guys that Yui and Kyoko probably had doctoral degrees.
Ever head of the [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Corps_of_Engineers[/url]?
What's this journal you're talking about? I don't remember anything about that.


2015: The Last Year of Ryohji Kaji is an Evangelion book that was released in June 1997. It was designed to be Kaji's journal that he kept throughout the Evangelion series, containing his thoughts and motives behind many of his actions.

http://wiki.evageeks.org/2015:_The_Last_Year_of_Ryohji_Kaji

It feels like Kaji is a historian or something related. He certainly has artisan tendencies which also applies to psychology in some range. He just don't seem to be a sociology-guy. It must be something practical. My bet - Master in Natural Resources and Applied Life Science and some courses that push his desire to know the 'truth'.

I read your link. It applies to engineering and i think Misato is more the management-type. Which is ironically not her strongest feature. She has a lot of Kaji and her Father for digging up the dirt. My bet is military service like from the Proposal of Evangelion. She wears a uniform - so something like that. I know - but i highly doubt that she was remotly close to engineering. It is more believable for Asuka to have a degree in Physics which i don't believe either. Asuka seems to be into sociology because she sees through certain social conventions and so on. This is what i think. And either way a degree doesn't say anything (haha, tells the one that has a master :hahaha: )
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Postby Ash1969 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:46 am

Well let's agree to disagree. This is all just speculation at best, anyway.
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Postby SEELE » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:52 am

View Original PostAsh1969 wrote:Well let's agree to disagree. This is all just speculation at best, anyway.


Okay. May i ask why? Because i don't see the speculation other than my reasoning for the certain degrees. Everything else is evidential (and my reasoning, which is speculation). But what am i pointing at in the head-canon thread. :lol:
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Postby Ash1969 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:58 am

It's speculation because none of it can be proved (that goes for both of us).
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Postby Bagheera » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:01 am

If Kaji had an advanced degree, I'd expect it to be in something like political science rather than history or sociology. I mean, all are appropriate, but the guy knows how politics works.
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Postby SEELE » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:03 am

View Original PostAsh1969 wrote:It's speculation because none of it can be proved (that goes for both of us).


Yeah i got that on the first turn. What specifically now? Misato is speculation that the Proposal applies to NGE/NTE in any sense. Asuka is purely based on a speculation from 'Magma Diver' from your side. Kaji is evidential because of his journal but it is the determination that is speculative. Everything else is clarified. Especially because Sociology has nothing to do with this Arc - nutruing and watering the plants (and Shinji). ;)

View Original PostBagheera wrote:If Kaji had an advanced degree, I'd expect it to be in something like political science rather than history or sociology. I mean, all are appropriate, but the guy knows how politics works.


You got me. Never thought about it. :facepalm:
Shame on me - political science.
Maybe some courses in Philosophy because he is like Kaworu pretty philosophical.
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Postby Ash1969 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:06 am

View Original PostBagheera wrote:If Kaji had an advanced degree, I'd expect it to be in something like political science rather than history or sociology. I mean, all are appropriate, but the guy knows how politics works.
[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_sociology[/url]
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Postby SEELE » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:18 am

View Original PostAsh1969 wrote:[url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_sociology[/url]


Political-sociology (and/or Political Science) and Sociology has some much to do as an electric chair and a normal chair.
Same goes for other stuff. It is on the spectrum of socio-scientific work. Political science is something Bagheera mentioned - which applies in the sense of his character arc. What you mentioned is something that views political-movements and try to understand the interaction in politic outside the executive. There is a fundamental difference. But please read the article first. :tongue:
Political science and Political sociology are different things.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_sociology
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_science
It is like with gender studies, biology and other similiar scientific degrees. Sounds alike but are completly different. Especially because socio-biological studies are fundamental different from evolutionary-psychological studies.
But yes i have to give up ground both have something to do with Anthropology and draws upon the fields of sociology. :rolleyes:
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Postby Ash1969 » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:34 am

My apologies, you guys know more about this sort of thing than me.
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Postby Gob Hobblin » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:46 am

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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Wed Oct 07, 2015 1:45 am

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