Yeah, i have to admit that when i read the fragments of Kadmon's fanfics in these FFSquad threads, i felt they were rather good despite myself, although i could certainly tell why they were selected by the FFSquad too.
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Yeah, i have to admit that when i read the fragments of Kadmon's fanfics in these FFSquad threads, i felt they were rather good despite myself, although i could certainly tell why they were selected by the FFSquad too.
"Every line is a joy" -Kaworu Nagisa.
"Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." - Ralph Waldo Emerson.
"Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." - Ralph Waldo Emerson.
The characters behaving as caricatures of themselves or whatever aside, it fits very nicely with the show thematically. Of course we couldn't see the characters believably doing these things because we know them from a TV show and no TV show would even imply this content, but there's a certain symmetry in a story about Gendo discarding Shinji and seriously injuring him to be with Yui again; it takes the subtext of the show and makes it text.
Chuckman wrote:The characters behaving as caricatures of themselves or whatever aside, it fits very nicely with the show thematically. Of course we couldn't see the characters believably doing these things because we know them from a TV show and no TV show would even imply this content, but there's a certain symmetry in a story about Gendo discarding Shinji and seriously injuring him to be with Yui again; it takes the subtext of the show and makes it text.
But that's not the problem. The problem is that Yui a) came out of Unit 01 and b) went along with Gendo's plan. Both actions are horrendously out of character for her. And frankly, his general ruthlessness notwithstanding, actively discarding Shinji like that is OOC for Gendo, too. He rationalizes the pain he causes Shinji by saying "well, once we're tanged it won't matter." But of course that's not happening in Kadmon's fic, so Gendo's actions make no sense. Worse yet, everyone's fucked now because Angels, Seele, Instrumentality, etc. Kadmon never even begins to address that.
Also, Misato et al are dumb as hell in that fic, which doesn't help. Also also, major medical fail. Kadmon seriously needs to read up on gender reassignment surgery if he's ever again going to attempt something so ludicrous.
For my post-3I fic, go here.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
But that's not what happened here; read the ending again. There was some mental contamination while Shinji was absorbed, but Yui did NOT come out of 01. It was Shinji the whole time, playing on what little memory he gleaned from his mother and playing on Gendo's desperation to fake the role as needed. He's gone so deep into the role he's mostly forgotten his true self, but this is still Shinji pretending to be Yui, not actually her.
And looking back at this thread I see I was being a complete dick for no apparent reason, so I belatedly apologize for that.
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"The internet: It's like a training camp for never amounting to anything." - Oglaf
"I think internet message boards and the like are dangerous." - Anno
"I'd consider myself a realist, alright? but in philosophical terms I'm what's called a pessimist. It means I'm bad at parties." - Rust Cohle
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
"The internet: It's like a training camp for never amounting to anything." - Oglaf
"I think internet message boards and the like are dangerous." - Anno
NemZ wrote:But that's not what happened here; read the ending again. There was some mental contamination while Shinji was absorbed, but Yui did NOT come out of 01. It was Shinji the whole time, playing on what little memory he gleaned from his mother and playing on Gendo's desperation to fake the role as needed. He's gone so deep into the role he's mostly forgotten his true self, but this is still Shinji pretending to be Yui, not actually her.
Oh gods that makes it worse. I didn't even know that was possible, but it is.
Here's why: it turns Gendo and Ritsuko into blathering idiots. First, they can detect mental contamination. They're actually pretty good at it. Second, they can tell if a soul's in an Eva's core. They're very good at that. So that twist at the end? There's no way Ritsuko could have been surprised. Not even remotely. But more importantly, Gendo going to all this trouble when he knows it's not Yui (and he would have to know for the afore-mentioned reasons)? He's actually going to abandon the real Yui in Unit 01 for this cheap copy destroying his son's mind? And moreover, he's going to butcher the kid in the process?
It's not dark, it's stupid. If Gendo were remotely interested in going that route he has plenty of Reis to play with. Just stick one in Eva 01, replicate the events that led to the contamination, and voila! Instant Yui, no need to fuck with Shinji. But he wouldn't even do that because his goals are long term and involve loyalty to Yui's plan as well as to Yui herself.
This is why dark for the sake of dark is a bad idea: darkness becomes the goal come hell or high water, twisting the story to suit its needs, instead of being the natural result of a good premise reaching its natural conclusion (ANE's a good example of the latter). And thus, FFS.
For my post-3I fic, go here.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
Bagheera wrote:Here's why: it turns Gendo and Ritsuko into blathering idiots. First, they can detect mental contamination. They're actually pretty good at it. Second, they can tell if a soul's in an Eva's core. They're very good at that. So that twist at the end? There's no way Ritsuko could have been surprised. Not even remotely. But more importantly, Gendo going to all this trouble when he knows it's not Yui (and he would have to know for the afore-mentioned reasons)? He's actually going to abandon the real Yui in Unit 01 for this cheap copy destroying his son's mind? And moreover, he's going to butcher the kid in the process?
Yes, they know a soul is still in 01 and that some mental contamination occurred. Gendo is fooled by the little bits of Yui's memory that Shinji brings back with him into thinking that she's the one who came out of 01 and Shinji is still in there. His attempts to jog 'her' memory are enough for Shinji to bluff his way through, gradually becoming so deeply entrenched in the role that it becomes his new truth, some sort of a fugue-like delusional state.
Ritsuko and Misato wrongly assumed this happened because of Yui's influence and Gendo's perversions, not something Shinji actively made happen of his own deranged will. He's not exactly a victim.
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"I'd consider myself a realist, alright? but in philosophical terms I'm what's called a pessimist. It means I'm bad at parties." - Rust Cohle
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
"The internet: It's like a training camp for never amounting to anything." - Oglaf
"I think internet message boards and the like are dangerous." - Anno
"I'd consider myself a realist, alright? but in philosophical terms I'm what's called a pessimist. It means I'm bad at parties." - Rust Cohle
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
"The internet: It's like a training camp for never amounting to anything." - Oglaf
"I think internet message boards and the like are dangerous." - Anno
"Reconstructive surgery."
"What?" Misato arched an eyebrow. "What are you talking about?"
"He's received corrective surgeries to repair trauma to his lower bowels. There have been three separate contacts over the last month. It explains the drugs. Celebrex is a COX-2 inhibitor used to cure adhesions after surgery to the rectum."
Apparently Gendo does not know of the existence of lube. And has a massive cock.
Among the people who use the Internet, many are obtuse. Because they are locked in their rooms, they hang on to that vision which is spreading across the world. But this does not go beyond mere ‘data’. Data without analysis [thinking], which makes you think that you know everything. This complacency is nothing but a trap. Moreover, the sense of values that counters this notion is paralyzed by it.
And so we arrive at demagogy. - Hideaki Anno, 1996
And so we arrive at demagogy. - Hideaki Anno, 1996
NemZ wrote:Yes, they know a soul is still in 01 and that some mental contamination occurred. Gendo is fooled by the little bits of Yui's memory that Shinji brings back with him into thinking that she's the one who came out of 01 and Shinji is still in there. His attempts to jog 'her' memory are enough for Shinji to bluff his way through, gradually becoming so deeply entrenched in the role that it becomes his new truth, some sort of a fugue-like delusional state.
Ritsuko and Misato wrongly assumed this happened because of Yui's influence and Gendo's perversions, not something Shinji actively made happen of his own deranged will. He's not exactly a victim.
And you don't see problems with any of this? Because seriously, there's a lot of dumb at work there. It really doesn't jibe very well with anything we see in the actual show.
Just to show I'm not hating on the story just because it's Kadmon, I'll note there are works of his I find tolerable. Witness wasn't bad, for instance; I don't think Ritsuko would sink that low, personally, but it's at least conceivable. And while the story was no great shakes overall he at least tried to take it to completion. But this one . . . ugh.
For my post-3I fic, go here.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
Bagheera wrote:And you don't see problems with any of this? Because seriously, there's a lot of dumb at work there. It really doesn't jibe very well with anything we see in the actual show.
Actually towards the end Ritsuko specifically says she DID see there was something weird in his psychograph but chalked it up to the whole absorbed/reborn thing and just worked around it. As long as he was good to pilot I guess she didn't really care. Which means Gendo was aware of this anomaly and took it as evidence, eventually, that this really was Yui.
I'm not saying this is great literature by any means. It's overwrought, the pacing is a bit clumsy, and the psychology at work is bullshit. Still, for what it sets out to do this is still better than most comparable fanfics.
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"I'd consider myself a realist, alright? but in philosophical terms I'm what's called a pessimist. It means I'm bad at parties." - Rust Cohle
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
"The internet: It's like a training camp for never amounting to anything." - Oglaf
"I think internet message boards and the like are dangerous." - Anno
"I'd consider myself a realist, alright? but in philosophical terms I'm what's called a pessimist. It means I'm bad at parties." - Rust Cohle
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
"The internet: It's like a training camp for never amounting to anything." - Oglaf
"I think internet message boards and the like are dangerous." - Anno
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the problem with The Second Other (and much of Kadmon's "works") isn't that it's angst porn, it's that it's badly executed angst porn.
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You think his works are "badly done angst porn"? Then visit AFF.net and read Taboo Parallel. Now THAT is angst porn.
Don't forget the brain bleach 'cause it's the most disturbing shit I've ever read outside Modae-tei doujins. Scratch that, most disturbing shit EVER. Kadmon's works seriously don't hold a candle to it.
On the other hand, angst porn is not all he can write. He wrote a pretty WAFFy Shinji/Asuka oneshot not very long ago and is currently writing the last chapter of a Shinji/Mana fic that can still go either way. Knowing his style however, I wouldn't bet on it not ending badly.
Don't forget the brain bleach 'cause it's the most disturbing shit I've ever read outside Modae-tei doujins. Scratch that, most disturbing shit EVER. Kadmon's works seriously don't hold a candle to it.
On the other hand, angst porn is not all he can write. He wrote a pretty WAFFy Shinji/Asuka oneshot not very long ago and is currently writing the last chapter of a Shinji/Mana fic that can still go either way. Knowing his style however, I wouldn't bet on it not ending badly.
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I'm still scratching my head over that one. Not that it wasn't good, just that...well, it's not what Kamon does. It was sweet and didn't have even the barest hint of darkness.
*shrugs*
I just assume it meant Hell had a rather chilly day.
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Oh, right. Forgot about that part.
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Don't bend; don't water it down; don't try to make it logical; don't edit your own soul according to the fashion. Rather, follow your most intense obsessions mercilessly. - Franz Kafka
Clones to the left of me, tsunderes to the right...and here I am, stuck in the middle with Shinji. - how I view my experience with Evangelion
-When it comes to Asuka/Shinji, pre-EoE is like moving Mount Everest and post-EoE is like moving the Olympus Mons. Either way, it's moving a mountain. It's just the size of said mountain.-
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Don't bend; don't water it down; don't try to make it logical; don't edit your own soul according to the fashion. Rather, follow your most intense obsessions mercilessly. - Franz Kafka
Clones to the left of me, tsunderes to the right...and here I am, stuck in the middle with Shinji. - how I view my experience with Evangelion
-When it comes to Asuka/Shinji, pre-EoE is like moving Mount Everest and post-EoE is like moving the Olympus Mons. Either way, it's moving a mountain. It's just the size of said mountain.-
True. Interestingly, I have an odd relationship with that fic. It's obviously awful, for the reasons you state. My favored conclusion, after reading a few chapters, involved Shinji finding out what was going on, getting ahold of Misato's gun, and shooting the instigators while in the midst of their depravity. Of course he would then go to jail for murder and such, but at least Asuka and Rei would be free.
But that's just revenge porn, not interesting in its own right. No, the interesting bit came when I started thinking about what would happen if Shinji wrote the end to that story. That is to say, the story itself is "fanfic" in a post-Eva world, and Shinji stumbles across it and writes (but probably doesn't publish) this ending. And then, at some point, Asuka finds it. Once she gets over her initial disgust, her main issue is with the notion that he can "fix" things by killing the bad guys. If he really wants to "rescue" her and Rei, what good does he do them by rotting in jail? It's just a stupid male power fantasy, not an actual solution to the problems presented in the story.
So she pens an alternative: he shoots the delinquents as planned, but instead of going to jail Asuka and Rei help him dispose of the bodies (hooray lye!) and otherwise cover up the crime. Misato's gun is returned with no one the wiser, everyone feigns ignorance when questions are asked, etc. and all the while Shinji makes himself useful by helping the girls recover from their ordeal. And of course in the omake Shinji fantasizes about the girls "rewarding" him for his efforts, right before Asuka crushes his dreams to dust.
So, vile as that story is, I can't entirely hate it since it spawned a neat little metafic in my mind. I love the idea of using something vile like that to grapple with legitimate, real-world issues, and having Asuka call out Shinji's simplistic fantasies for what they are is surprisingly in-character and relevant to the show's themes. So, profit, I guess?
On the other hand, angst porn is not all he can write. He wrote a pretty WAFFy Shinji/Asuka oneshot not very long ago and is currently writing the last chapter of a Shinji/Mana fic that can still go either way. Knowing his style however, I wouldn't bet on it not ending badly.
He has some surprisingly good quality moments, yes. Just makes the crap all the more disappointing though.
For my post-3I fic, go here.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
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Like I said in the fic's reviews section, Yui and Mana both need to FUCKING DIE. But even that wouldn't be ideal as Asuka already got permanent mental scars from the ordeal.
Hell, not even the Gendo/Rei fic I wrote and partially posted on that site is this disturbing, even though the better part of the second chapter which explains Gendo's motivation is still on my hard drive.
Hell, not even the Gendo/Rei fic I wrote and partially posted on that site is this disturbing, even though the better part of the second chapter which explains Gendo's motivation is still on my hard drive.
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The thing with the fic is, it's not supposed to be an overly dark crack-fic that plays Gendo for a comic-villain. (There was sufficient implication that he needed a lot of convincing, but eventually succumbed to his weakness/ need to have his wife back/ the illusion of having her under his nose.)
Ritsuko & Misato "find out" that it's not really Yui by asking about the EVAs (the actual Yui would not forget her life's work) -
Gendo wouldn't probe a comfortable illusion that much - running away from reality plot et all.
It's supposed to be disturbing/brilliant because it provides a crazy, but possible situation under which what would usually be a ridiculous crackfic scenarion becomes believable.
I guess if you did not find it sufficiently convincing, the entire horror factor will be lost on you, but it's not supposed to be crackfic for crackfic's sake.
...Seriously, poor AK will never live that one down, no matter how many, say, melancholy little R/S pieces (Like "Supernumerary") they write.
Ritsuko & Misato "find out" that it's not really Yui by asking about the EVAs (the actual Yui would not forget her life's work) -
Gendo wouldn't probe a comfortable illusion that much - running away from reality plot et all.
It's supposed to be disturbing/brilliant because it provides a crazy, but possible situation under which what would usually be a ridiculous crackfic scenarion becomes believable.
I guess if you did not find it sufficiently convincing, the entire horror factor will be lost on you, but it's not supposed to be crackfic for crackfic's sake.
...Seriously, poor AK will never live that one down, no matter how many, say, melancholy little R/S pieces (Like "Supernumerary") they write.
I wanted to try harvesting the rice
I wanted to hold Tsubame more
I wanted to stay together forever with the boy I like
I wanted to hold Tsubame more
I wanted to stay together forever with the boy I like
But for most of us it wasn't, hence the thread.
For my post-3I fic, go here.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
The law doesn't protect people. People protect the law. -- Akane Tsunemori, Psycho-Pass
People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
I hate myself. But maybe I can learn to love myself. Maybe it's okay for me to be here! That's right! I'm me, nothing more, nothing less! I'm me. I want to be me! I want to be here! And it's okay for me to be here! -- Shinji Ikari, Neon Genesis Evangelion
Yes, I know. You thought it would be something about Asuka. You're such idiots.
I love that, it was hilarious. I think of all Kadmon's work, Subtrahend is the best example. Some of the tendencies in the early works like The Second Other are more refined there, into proper horror that has more to offer than simple shock value. Kadmon's work rather brutally satirizes Evan fanfic.
The only one I strongly dislike is I Knew Him When, which is just excessive.
Anyway, re-reading The Second Other just now, it's simply not some eye-melting offense against God. I think it's biggest problem is that it goes on too long and sort of wallows on the concept; it'd be a more effective short story if it ended on "My name is Ikari Yui".
I also hate gratuitous use of Japanese name orders and honorifics but it isn't egregious here.
It's definitely a journeyman work. It's far too linear, for one, and the prose is clipped and some of the said tags are oddly stilted. Edited and rewritten it could work. AK should have saved the concept to write it with more practice at wordsmithing and a better structure.
It would be more effective without the injuries and sexual element, which overshadow the horror inherent in losing one's mind to an invasive other.
I re-read a few of Kadmon's other shorter pieces today and they suffer from what my creative writing professor called the Harry Chapin effect, referencing the song Cat's in the Cradle, which ends with:
And as I hung up the phone it occurred to me
He'd grown up just like me
My boy was just like me
It's the equivalent to explaining the joke. Kadmon does the same thing in Subtrahend with lines such as:
SPOILER: Show
"This was nice," she said. "If you ever want to eat with me again, just ask, okay?"
He never asked.
He never asked.
The second line there is what people mean when they say "show, don't tell" and it shows that AK doesn't trust the prose to tell the story and feels the need to explain it, which is a common problem among amateur writers and something editors heavily discourage.
Short, punchy lines are often an attempt at the Jesus Wept Effect, a concentration of the maximum power in the shortest, tersest possible line, but it's easy to fall into the trap. AK is hit and miss with it- the stories often have excellent taglines and actually prompted me to use short taglines myself.
To look at another example from Subtrahend
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Asuka looked surprised. Not angry or scared, just surprised. She still looked surprised when the railing gave out behind her and she tumbled backwards into the sixty feet of open air above the drainage ditch.
Hikari watched her fall faster than she thought possible and burst apart with a dull crack on the cement. The walls became an abstract mess of thick red chaos. One of her eyes shot out of her skull, bouncing on a tether of fibrous nerve tissue. Her left arm was bent at an unnatural angle. Her long hair became matted and heavy with blood. She did not move.
The blood seeped down into the water of the drainage ditch, and soon a long crooked red finger pointed away from the body, twisting into the oblivion of the setting sun.
Hikari watched her fall faster than she thought possible and burst apart with a dull crack on the cement. The walls became an abstract mess of thick red chaos. One of her eyes shot out of her skull, bouncing on a tether of fibrous nerve tissue. Her left arm was bent at an unnatural angle. Her long hair became matted and heavy with blood. She did not move.
The blood seeped down into the water of the drainage ditch, and soon a long crooked red finger pointed away from the body, twisting into the oblivion of the setting sun.
Becomes much more effective as...
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Asuka looked surprised. Not angry or scared, just surprised. She still looked surprised when the railing gave out behind her and she tumbled backwards into the sixty feet of open air above the drainage ditch. Hikari watched her fall faster than she thought possible and burst apart with a dull crack on the cement, and soon a long crooked red finger pointed away from the body, twisting into the oblivion of the setting sun.
I have to continue to defend The Second Other because it's a 15,000 word horror novellette that has a very good 3,500-5000 word horror short buried in it, if it were edited, rewritten, and reorganized into a less linear format to move the emphasis away from the cheap shock to the real horror element that gets lost in the muddle of overwriting and unsure prose.
I think I have a soft spot for it since it was the first Eva fic I read that wasn't Mari Peggy Sue Kissy Face Superheroes, Part 27: This Time Shinji Bags Maya. That doesn't make it good, but I'm always on the lookout for Eva fics that break the mold and aren't just the same idea recycled again and again and again.
Of course, mere originality isn't the standard for good fiction, fan- or otherwise; any idea, properly executed, can be good while any great idea can be terrible if it's not written right.
I can't believe someone mentioned American Psycho in this thread. If you fed Kadmon's entire catalog into a markov chain generator the end result wouldn't touch the Rat Scene.
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