Irises (and pupils) in anime

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Postby zimlord » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:17 pm

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Postby Barinax » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:27 pm

^That's scary.

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Postby Action_Bastard » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:38 pm

WHOA! :eyepop:
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Postby Zaque » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:56 pm

^ seconded
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Postby THE Hal E. Burton 9000 » Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:45 pm

Formless One wrote:Watch Bambi. The anime eye borrows a lot from the way Disney portrays animals eyes.
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nearly all of anime from its humble beginnings through the 1970's were some kind of copy from Disney animations

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Postby Iron Rooster » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:37 pm

Thank you Zimlord! That's a perfect, yet bizarre, example of just what I'm talking about!

I understand the big eyes in anime. It makes it so easy to convey emotions through characters. Now, large irisesin relation to the large eyes, I dunno. As far as I know, not all animators choose that style.
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Postby Formless One » Fri Aug 29, 2008 11:46 pm

Is there even a real reason beyond style? I mean, think about the memetic mutation that can happen when one series uses that style for reasons that get lost to time, but the series is successful. Other creators see the success and imitate. They get some success with their audience, and someone decides they like eyes with small to nonexistent pupils, and their show includes it. Keep going, and eventually it just becomes standard for a type of series to make that stylistic choice. The original reason for the choice gets lost to time, because of copying and stylistic evolution.

A good example of this are western series that use anime style and aesthetic, thinking they are going to cash in on the audience, and not knowing that the style originated in Disney films, not Japan.

Just keep that in mind. Someone may know the original reason for it, but I think a lot of it is just imitation.
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Postby Mr. Tines » Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:06 pm

The big-eyes thing harks back to Betty Boop and her ancestry.

What is interesting is the variety of renditions, from just flat disks of iris-like colour (e.g. Utena), through various grades of shading and pupil.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:08 pm

So apparently with eyes in anime or at least in Eva when Shinji freaks out, his eyes dilate instead of contract or vice-versa? Why the screw up? Should it just be chalked up to "it's only anime"?
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Postby Zaque » Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:47 pm

^ "dramatic effect that gets the point across" :P
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Postby SeanTucker » Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:45 am

zimlord wrote:Image


The guy's eyes are Haruhi's eyes from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya.

The hamster's eyes are Boota's eyes from TTGL.

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Postby zimlord » Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:50 am

you forgot the glasses and the mouth. that's 2 out of 4. 50 PERCENT!!! A WINNER IS NOT YOU!

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Postby The Imperialist » Sun Aug 31, 2008 6:09 am

Well, aside from a style that got embedded after decades of manga (aside from the 'gekiga' style which is more realistic) what I think is defamilirisation from reality, and as a kind of emphasis of its uniqueness.
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