Controversial Anime Opinions

[Justacrazyguy]

Kyoukai no Kanata is the best show Kyo-ani has ever produced and I'm very much looking forward to the movie.
Kara no Kyoukai might create the densest of atmospheres, but it looks ugly (shaders & terrible style for character designs) and will thus age horribly.

Good God man, you're making me cry here. Kyoukai no Kanata is pretty, but empty, devoid of anything, soulless. Oh, but it did have a great soundtrack, so there's that.

I won't say anything about Kara no Kyoukai because I love those movies and am physically imcapable of saying anything bad about them.

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Also, Ghilbi is fantastic and calling it dysney-esque is almost an insult.

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Anyway, I'm not sure how controversial this is, but I'm starting to think Isao Takahata was the best Ghilbi director, surpassing even Myazaki.

[A.T. Fish]

Also, Ghilbi is fantastic and calling it dysney-esque is almost an insult.

I do like Ghibli, and I know hating on popular things is cool these days, but Disney has been making great animated content since the 30s. Not only Ghibli itself was influenced by Disney, the entire medium of anime was.

[Justacrazyguy]

Disneys influence is undeniable, yes. The problem I have with that expression is that it reduces a studio with a long and proud history into "You know Ghilbi, they're like, the Disney of Japan!"

And in a way they are the disney of Japan, but they are also so much more. I know, it's a minor issue that probably only annoys me, but I felt the need to say it.

[Defectron]

YES

Akiyuki Shinbos style was a gift for anime as a whole.

Why would that be controversial, his directing style is unbelievably beautiful, of course sometimes he directs shitty anime like vampire bund, but at least those turn out to be shitty anime that look beautiful.

the whole statement about not liking the modern anime industry because the big sleazy otaku types and all. That's such a narrow statement, especially because there are so many great producers and directors out there who are so passionate about the craft of anime in this century. I mean, there's also how he categorizes otakus (for example, his statement on hating the "gun otaku")

I dunno I can really emphasize with where Miyazaki is coming from in regards to the sleazy otaku types, that being said there are still good things that come out of anime, you just have to look for them.

[robersora]

Good God man, you're making me cry here. Kyoukai no Kanata is pretty, but empty, devoid of anything, soulless. Oh, but it did have a great soundtrack, so there's that.

Yes, but all of their shows are pretty much soulless.

I won't say anything about Kara no Kyoukai because I love those movies and am physically imcapable of saying anything bad about them.

I'm sorry to have hurt your feelings. It is the controversial thread, though.

Why would that be controversial, his directing style is unbelievably beautiful, of course sometimes he directs shitty anime like vampire bund, but at least those turn out to be shitty anime that look beautiful.

Mmmhh~ Then I was wrong in my assessment, that it's trendy to dislike him now. Whoopsie.

[Kazuki_Fuse]

Yes, but all of their shows are pretty much soulless.

Have you even watched K-On!?!

[robersora]

Have you even watched K-On!?!

Yes. I wanted to include that K-On isn't soulless. Kyoukai no Kanata still appeals to me more, though.

[Enki v.2]

I can't stand K-On. I wanted to like it, along with Oreimo & several other moe/slice of life shows. Because I generally like slice of life moe. But, I had to stop watching in like the first or second episode of both, because they were just so transparently without content. I love K-On & Oreimo AMVs, because they have no pretension of being about anything. So, basically, I classify them under the same metric as Hellsing -- pretty but not actually worth paying attention to.

On the other hand, Kyokai no Kanata made me cry several times. I marathonned it. I was weeping during the sad parts. Given that everybody's calling it soulless window decoration, I guess that makes me an outlier; I felt like it was *maybe* two steps below Shin Sekai Yori in terms of overall construction. (I will be the first to admit that it is not *original*, but you get points for doing something well even if it's been done worse before.)

[Rosenakahara]

So, basically, I classify them under the same metric as Hellsing -- pretty but not actually worth paying attention to.

Were-were we watching the same hellsing? i mean probably not because there is the hellsing ultimate/hellsing thing but ultimate is much more than it actually appears to be though if you want to you can ignore most of the things below the surface and still have fun.

[Enki v.2]

Were-were we watching the same hellsing? i mean probably not because there is the hellsing ultimate/hellsing thing but ultimate is much more than it actually appears to be though if you want to you can ignore most of the things below the surface and still have fun.

I'm talking about the original Hellsing.

Hellsing Ultimate is actually good. The original Hellsing was 24 episodes of pretty animation and nonsensical plot, and two episodes of crappy animation with even more nonsensical plot.

The entirety of the original Hellsing's plot was encapsulated in the first half of the first episode of Hellsing Ultimate, except for the part where Satan randomly shows up after a cyborg demon's head is chopped off, because that doesn't make *any* sense and had no place being filmed anywhere.

[Reichu]

Hellsing Ultimate is actually good.

I was under the impression that it was more of a sobering exercise in why slavish adherence to the source material is a terrible idea. I found it unwatchable. (And I was able to get through the original anime, somehow.) If I wanted the manga, I'd just read the manga. Glorified motion comics can die in a fire.

[honsou]

Hellsing Ultimate just felt way too silly. Then again I wasn't really into the original so meh.


I guess the easiest controversial anime opinion is that I hate The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya and all of its assorted sequels with the passion of a thousand suns

[Defectron]

I'm talking about the original Hellsing.

Hellsing Ultimate is actually good. The original Hellsing was 24 episodes of pretty animation and nonsensical plot, and two episodes of crappy animation with even more nonsensical plot.

The entirety of the original Hellsing's plot was encapsulated in the first half of the first episode of Hellsing Ultimate, except for the part where Satan randomly shows up after a cyborg demon's head is chopped off, because that doesn't make *any* sense and had no place being filmed anywhere.

That controversial? I thought most people didn't like the first hellsing anime that much.Most people I talk to seem to like ultimate though.

[Compiling_Autumn]

I was under the impression that it was more of a sobering exercise in why slavish adherence to the source material is a terrible idea. I found it unwatchable. (And I was able to get through the original anime, somehow.) If I wanted the manga, I'd just read the manga. Glorified motion comics can die in a fire.

Totally agreed. The original is corny in a way that I can still enjoy. The OVA just gives me second-hand embarrassment.

[Mr. Tines]

The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

It doesn't merit active dislike -- just disdain at being rather cynical mix of throwing stuff at the wall to see what stuck. And it was fun to watch the fans being trolled over and over by the way that S2 was rolled out.

[robersora]

Wasn't the first Hellsing just 12 Episodes?
Well, nevermind. It really wasn't a great series, but the music was awesome! Still listen to OST on a regular basis. The Ultimate was trashy fun, albeit they (studios and Manga-ka) obviously had problems keeping it together after Episode four.

[Chainsaw Owl]

I actually really liked Hellsing Ultimate, except for all that nonsense with Walter in the last couple episodes. That just felt WAY out of left field, and ruined a genuinely awesome character. Also Schrodinger seemed ridiculously random to me, both as a character and as a plot point. I could have done without him.

Disclaimer: I've neither watched the original anime, nor read the manga. Been meaning to get around to that.

[Enki v.2]

Wasn't the first Hellsing just 12 Episodes?
Well, nevermind. It really wasn't a great series, but the music was awesome! Still listen to OST on a regular basis. The Ultimate was trashy fun, albeit they (studios and Manga-ka) obviously had problems keeping it together after Episode four.

Basically my position exactly. The show had really high production values but was totally incoherent plot-wise, while Ultimate was at least semi-coherent and didn't take itself so seriously.

[GAP]

I cannot comment on Hellsing but I really don't like Alucard either way. Alucard is an overpowered vampire prima donna who complains when humans are not meeting his standards of humanity.

[Defectron]

I cannot comment on Hellsing but I really don't like Alucard either way. Alucard is an overpowered vampire prima donna who complains when humans are not meeting his standards of humanity.

Humans usually don't meet my standards of humanity whatever that is, so I'm ok with that. My only real problem with Alucard is he dresses too similar to Vash the stampede.

But yeah when I itinitially saw the original hellsing anime I liked it but after rewatching it later I thought "damn this really didn't hold up well at all, why did I like this?" ultimate was a pretty big step up from that imo.