Official Rebuild Dub Thread

Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition"). The final instalment made its debut in Japan on March 8, 2021.

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Postby hui43210 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:16 pm

Late 2015....... Ya there has to be more than just a frigging subtitle track and a few lines, this is messed up.
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Postby Adaminator1 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 7:28 pm

View Original PostKnightmareX13 wrote:they said they were shooting for a late 2015 release


No. They said "later this year". Not "Late this year". Words mean things. Could be late this year, could be mid this year. My money's on mid.
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Postby KnightmareX13 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:02 pm

View Original PostAdaminator1 wrote:No. They said "later this year". Not "Late this year"
My mistake -o-;
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Postby Adaminator1 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:03 pm

View Original PostKnightmareX13 wrote:My mistake -o-;


's cool, man, shit happens.
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Postby MrSniper1401 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 8:40 pm

View Original PostKnightmareX13 wrote:My mistake -o-;


Lol gotta be careful man, I almost had a mental breakdown!
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Postby Guy Nacks » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:20 am

View Original Posthui43210 wrote:Late 2015....... Ya there has to be more than just a frigging subtitle track and a few lines, this is messed up.



Take it from me that if it were just minor changes to the subtitle track, that would only take a day or two's work, tops. The question is how long Khara themselves have been taking to try and get shit translated the way they want it, so it might not all warrant blame on Funimation alone.

The other question is how long it takes to mass produce the things once everything is locked in. That I don't have even a clue of guessing.
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Postby jcmoorehead » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:32 am

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:Take it from me that if it were just minor changes to the subtitle track, that would only take a day or two's work, tops. The question is how long Khara themselves have been taking to try and get shit translated the way they want it, so it might not all warrant blame on Funimation alone.

The other question is how long it takes to mass produce the things once everything is locked in. That I don't have even a clue of guessing.


Mass Production probably wouldn't take too long. I might be wrong because I'm going off of the games industry but time between the product going gold to shipped is usually 2-3 weeks. I'd assume it'd be similar for something like this too.

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Postby robersora » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:27 am

^
I think it's great, that Funimation took that chance. Just from the changes in subtitles alone, lots of vague lines might be easier to put into the right context. That said, things are moving terribly slow, but I guess we have to blame Khara for this. I can't imagine why Funimation would hold the release back longer; it just doesn't seem like a wise marketing decision to me.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:30 am

Well, it would help if Funi didn't complete a translation in less than a week. The chanses of completely missing the point decrease when you're careful the first time around.
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Postby robersora » Sat Jan 17, 2015 7:42 am

^
In their defence; Q is kinda complex and extremely vague. Something like that is really hard to translate correctly.
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Postby Jimbob » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:44 am

I just hope Khara doesn't overestimate their english skills or force obviously wrong translations on them.

Remember how when Eva tv was first getting dubbed they had to argue with Gainax about translating the (Number) Children to (number) Child because the latter is proper english?

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sat Jan 17, 2015 12:00 pm

^ True, but you can even hear the Egnrish term “First Children” in the Japanese performances of NGE. Slapping a “First Child” in the subs does little to distract from that fact. So technically it wouldn’t have been an inaccurate translation of they included “First Children” in the English subs/dubs. It just would have been grammatically stupid.

Accurate translation ≠ Correct grammar

In NTE the Japanese actors actually say things like “First Child” instead of “First Children.” So no one should need to be pointing out their incorrect English grammar in that instance this time around.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sat Jan 17, 2015 10:49 pm

Assuming it's https://dankanemitsu.wordpress.com Studio khara's in-house translator, there's nothing to worry about. He translated 2.0 at a film festival.

And NGE rendered things as "_ Children" in English. e.g: Rei = First Children, partly because she has all those clones according to an old (official?) FAQ. Eva NTE renders their names in Japanese as "_ Boy/Girl". Rei example again: First Girl.
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Postby Tabby » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:11 pm

I've seen the release date of early February 2015 be thrown around though I cannot seem to find an official source.

I had a long conversation with a woman at Right Stuf today and she did tell me that she knew nothing and claimed nobody she knew within the company knew anything of a release date, either.

Honestly, as much as I hate this delay, when I saw the English dub for myself my thought was that the VA for Kaworu was a terrible choice, IIRC. That was my biggest issue with it, but that is a big problem. I would be more happy with a high quality product than what I saw over a year ago. However, I am positive they will not fire Jerry Jewell to appease fans since they are already past the halfway point with these movies.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:49 pm

Just spinning’ in my chair, waiting for some official subs and a translated 60-page book.

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Postby kuribo-04 » Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:00 pm

The only explanation at this point is that the dub is so bad, that it actually kills people, and they just can't release it.

The wait will be worth it, the book is prett cool. :)
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Postby FullMetalBiscuit » Fri Feb 06, 2015 6:29 am

View Original PostTabby wrote:I've seen the release date of early February 2015 be thrown around though I cannot seem to find an official source.

I had a long conversation with a woman at Right Stuf today and she did tell me that she knew nothing and claimed nobody she knew within the company knew anything of a release date, either.

Honestly, as much as I hate this delay, when I saw the English dub for myself my thought was that the VA for Kaworu was a terrible choice, IIRC. That was my biggest issue with it, but that is a big problem. I would be more happy with a high quality product than what I saw over a year ago. However, I am positive they will not fire Jerry Jewell to appease fans since they are already past the halfway point with these movies.


February date was tentative for the UK, Amazon had that date before 3.33 vanished and Funimation (I think, maybe Manga) tweeted saying, "You can (not) have a UK 3.33 release until February" or something along those lines.

The supposed date was a few days ago...

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Postby MrSniper1401 » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:40 am

View Original PostFullMetalBiscuit wrote:February date was tentative for the UK, Amazon had that date before 3.33 vanished and Funimation (I think, maybe Manga) tweeted saying, "You can (not) have a UK 3.33 release until February" or something along those lines.

The supposed date was a few days ago...


At this point I have the feeling we won't see a release til the fall
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Postby Dataprime » Fri Feb 06, 2015 11:51 am

Lets hope not.

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Postby MrSniper1401 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:42 am

Wasn't it around this time last year that the blu-ray was supposed to be released? Full year delay.
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