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Postby NAveryW » Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:15 pm

Who's Ayaha? And how are these Russians seeing the trailer?
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Postby CtHuLhU » Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:01 am

NAveryW wrote:Who's Ayaha? And how are these Russians seeing the trailer?

Ayanami of course. Dumb online services, translating manually is more reliable =)

Did i speak that we've seeing it? There are only Japanese viewers.
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Postby WES512 » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:55 am

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evangelion's official site has added a section for trailers, but it is not available yet.

this is people's opinion regarding the latest trailer. it is said that the running time is about 1 minute and 30 seconds.
・見てきた人による体験談 by E-BOY氏

23 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 21:40:20 ID:kovb1ILT
見てきた\(^o^)/
ヱヴァの予告見たら、大日本人見ずにそっこー帰った。
今、家についたからこれから感想書きます。
一応断わっておくと、映画の撮影は法律で禁止されたから、うpとかは無理だからな。

43 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 21:49:03 ID:kovb1ILT
記憶が曖昧だから、感じたことを羅列してく。
・最初はクロックワークスのロゴマーク
・その後、黒バックで、宇多田ヒカルfly me ~って書かれてるカット
・そのあとfly me~に合わせて、新劇場版の映像が流れていく。
・初めから最後までキャラがしゃべることは一切なし。効果音、SEも一切なし。
・映像が流れ終わった後、「ヱヴァンゲリヲン新劇場版:序」のタイトルロゴが黒バック赤字で横書き。
・その後、2007年9月1日公開の文字
・最後は前売り第3弾の広告。綾波の絵が画面の右で、左に7月7日発売の文字。
・予告の上映時間はほぼ1分半。

ざっとこんな感じです。これから映像の詳細(うろお覚えですが・・)について話します。

61 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 21:55:10 ID:kovb1ILT
まずは使徒から・・  ※順番までは覚えてないので、スマン
・ラミエルが凄いことになってる。六面体に周りの風景がちゃんと映し出されてる。
・ラミエルは第3新東京から近づくカット。奥から前に進んでくる。
・その後、続けてサキエル、シャムシエル。
・サキエルは爆撃受けてる。このカットの構図はほぼ旧エヴァ1話と同じ。山の間から出てくるカット。
・シャムシエルは大きな口あけてるカット。鞭みたいな手も健在。口の中にコアあり。はっきりいって、こいつ気持ち悪かった。

82 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 22:04:24 ID:kovb1ILT
人物関係1・・
・ゲンドウが腕組してるおなじみのシーンあり。後に冬月いたかな?
・そしてゲンドウの顔アップ。斜めからのアングル。憂い(?)を帯びた表情。
・シンジがトウジに殴られるシーンも健在。アングルは旧エヴァ3話とほぼ同じ。トウジがシンジの胸ぐらつかんでる。
・綾波が教室の窓際に座っているシーンもあり。やはり包帯してる。前よりかわいく(主観ダガ・・)なってる。
・シンジも登場。旧エヴァの「瞬間、心重ねて」の冒頭部分で、学校前の歩道橋のシーンがあったが、そこの歩道橋において、
シンジが元気なさそうに自動エスカレータを下っている。歩道橋の上には同じ学校の生徒の姿も。もちろん今回はアスカはいない。

作画はおそらく全て新作画。予告内で、旧エヴァからの使いまわしはないと思われる。
ただ、構図・アングルがほぼ同じであるシーンはいくつかあった。

100 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 22:14:59 ID:kovb1ILT
人物関係2・・
・シンジの目のカット。画面全体がシンジの目。
・そこからカメラが引いていき、LCLに満たされたコクピットにいるシンジの全体像が写る。
・LCLは黒で表現されているので、シンジが暗闇のなかに操縦レバーを握りながら漂っている感じである。
・予告の最後の方に再び綾波。おなじみの暗闇にうかぶ月を背景にして、横をむいている絵。ほぼ構図・アングルは旧エヴァ6話と同じ。
・その後(?)、シンジが再び映って(よく覚えてない、プラグスーツは着てたと思う)、ミサトさん。
・ミサトは、横を向いていて(左ほほが写っている)、そのあとこちらを向く。
・ミサトの表情はとても穏やか。安心しきっている感じ。少し笑った?もしかしたらここが、ポスターの「私も初号機パイロット~」のシーンかも。

ミサトさんかわいくなってる(主観ダガ・・)。若さを感じる。

135 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 22:29:38 ID:kovb1ILT
町並み・・
・旧エヴァ第1話の湾岸戦車隊砲撃のシーンは今回もあった。ただ明らかにディテールが細かくなってた。
・湾岸戦車隊の砲撃は斜め上からの俯瞰によるアングル。けっこうアップになってた。
・ミサイルかなり飛ばしてたから、板尾サーカス(?)がここでみれるかも
・サキエルの顔面にかなりのミサイルが降り注いでた。あれは痛そう・・
・望遠のアングルから爆柱あがるシーンあり。
・旧エヴァ第2話にあった、市街地において爆炎が十字路に沿って上がるシーンあり(空には登ってないやつ。うまく説明できん。)
・EOEの実写であった、町中の電線映るシーンみたいなのがあった。もちろん今回は絵になってたが。
・兵装ビルが地面から生えてくるシーンあり。アングルは地上から(第3新東京内)の視点。
・兵装ビルの側面はソーラーみたいなになってる。

LCLが黒っていうのは、暗いってことで、色が黒いわけじゃないよ。
キャラや作画、全体を通しての印象、その他はこれから書いてく。
ガンバって一回で覚えた\(^o^)/ でも順番は覚えてないし、細かいとこは曖昧だから、他の見た人の感想とも合わせてください。

177 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 22:43:10 ID:kovb1ILT
EVA関係・・
・ケージにいる初号機がガラガラと出てくるおなじみのシーンあり。
・初号機の肩(?)にNERVのマーク。結構大きく描かれていた。ただこれが新NERVマークの方だったかは不明。
・予告の中盤からヤシマ作戦におけるEVAの描写が出てくる。
・零号機が雨の中たたずむシーン。初号機も? ここら辺はNEWTYPEに出てた本田氏の絵の雰囲気のまんま。
・初号機がポジトロンライフルを腹ばいの姿勢で構えているシーンあり。正面をこちらに向けている。
・EVAのシーンは結構あったが、全体的に画が暗かったのでよくわからなかった。
・日本列島が映るシーンあり。ただ今回はヤシマ作戦後だと思われ、日本全土の電気がついていくシーンになってた。
・箱根当たりから、日本列島が同心円状に光が戻っていく。
・東京がすげい光ってる。関東平野一面が光でいっぱい。名古屋や大阪、福岡も強く光ってた。ここら辺は現実世界に忠実。
・北朝鮮は真っ黒でしたw。

E-BOYのEはEVAの、Eです。特にESとは関係ないです。

230 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 23:02:33 ID:kovb1ILT
いろいろ・・
・シンジの雰囲気が自分が見る限りでは、旧エヴァとは変わってると思う。
・貞本版のシンジがもっと乾いた感じ。
・目が死んでた?とりあえず、シンジが笑ってるシーンはなし。
・綾波・シンジが3回ずつ、ゲンドウ・トウジ・ミサトが1回ずつぐらい映った。
・作画のレベルはかなり高かった。構図・アングルは同じものもあったが。
・CG使っただけあって、やっぱりリアル感(?)がましていた。ただCG特有の気持ち悪さはなかったと思う。
・ラミエルはすごかった。一目見て、旧エヴァより上だと感じた。
・全体的にキャラは丸みを帯びてたかな?キャラ以外も。ただこれはあくまで主観。キャライメージはニュータイプ07年5月号が一番あってると思う。
・綾波とミサトは十分かわいかったと思われます(あくまで主観デス・・)。綾波が笑うととんでもないことになりそう・・
・やっぱり映画だけあって、クオリティーはすごい!なんていったって、庵野だもの。作画崩壊なんてありえないでしょう。

盗撮はしてませんよ。携帯の電池が切れそうで、とてもじゃないが撮影はむりでした。
その他詳細もこのあと書きます。たぶん次がラスト。

316 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 23:23:41 ID:kovb1ILT
その他
・確認できた限りで、綾波・シンジ・トウジ・ゲンドウ・ミサト。冬月はわからない
・確認できなかったのは、カヲル・リツコ・その他オペレータ。アスカはもちろんいなかった。
・予告での明朝体は自重してたw 冒頭の宇多田ヒカルfly me~の文字は小さかった。
・昔みたいに、用語で画面埋め尽くすようなことはもうしないのかな~?と思った。
・またエヴァの代名詞ともいえるフラッシュカットも今回は使用してない。そのためじっくり見れた。
・宇多田ヒカルのfly me~は冒頭から終わりまでながれていた。具体的には1番サビから1分半。
・つまり最初「fly me to the moon~」という歌声から始まるということ。宇多田のシングルに収録されている
fly me~の一番サビから再生すれば、今回の予告の雰囲気はつかめると思う。
つまり予告中で宇多田は「fly me to the moon」を3回言ったということです(測った)。
・かなり宇多田の歌声と今回の予告はマッチしてたと思う。前回の劇場版のハイテンションとは真逆。
すごく落ち着いて、しっとりとした感じになってた。今回のヱヴァは十分、カップルでも楽しめるでしょう。
それほど、なんかロマンチックな感じでした。

こんなところです。これらはあくまで自分が見た限りでの感想です。
今回の予告では画像の出し惜しみはしておらず、Yahoo!などの文字だけ予告でフラストレーションがたまってた方には
十分満足できると思います(いらいらがたまってた自分は満足できたので)。

339 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 23:27:29 ID:kovb1ILT
>>320
きっかり1分30秒。測ったからこれは間違いない。

357 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 23:30:57 ID:kovb1ILT
>>338
貞本氏のキャラクターのカラーも出てたとは思う。
庵野監督が落ち着いたのかな。
前回よりはハイテンションになったり、カオスな状態にはならないとは思った(あくまで個人の印象)。

あと、339の>>320→>>323

367 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 23:33:50 ID:kovb1ILT
>>343
なんて言うか、性格はNT5月号のイラストの通りなのかはわからないけど、
キャラの色使いといか、色彩設定がこのイラストと同じ感じを受けた。
CG配色?

375 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 23:37:03 ID:kovb1ILT
一応、前スレでも言ったけど今日予告見たのは、豊島の新宿サンシャインシネマ(?)
での大日本人。

389 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 23:39:57 ID:kovb1ILT
>>371
結構一瞬だったからはっきりとはわからなかったが、口の中に赤いコアがあったのは確か。
それで、とにかくシャムシエルの口が大きかった。画面いっぱいにシャムシエルの口・・
デザインの変更まではわからないげど、おおまかなデザインは旧エヴァとは変わってないと思う。

400 名前:E-BOY 投稿日:2007/06/30(土) 23:42:35 ID:kovb1ILT
>>377
顔のつくりは関係ないかな。断定はできないけど。そんなに違和感はないよ。
特に綾波が包帯巻いてる顔は旧エヴァとほぼ同じだな~と感じたことは覚えてる。

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E-BOYって本物だと思うよ、前にたしかまとめサイトにのっていたが
アキバで行われたイベントの時も情報流してくれたと思う。
その時の情報は本物だったからE-BOYはウソ付いてないと思うな。
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:59 am

Well I don't know if it leads to anything but the films official website
evangelion.co.jp, has seemed to add more info galore. A blog, info about Fly Me to the Moon, and of course, product placement (I find the black EVANGELION 1.0 bag to be nicley enticing) and more.

But alas, I can't read a lick of the text. So I'm in the dark about where to go, whats what and whos who. I figure if anyone here can read the crazy chickenscratch there's a schmorsgasborg (so spelled wrong) of info in there perhaps. Info on whether the seiyu's have returned, number of Angels, budget, the size of Anno's ego measured using the metric system. Etc.

EDIT BUTTON IS YOUR FRIEND: Ok, so you just beat me to the punch. Can anyone translate the dialouge?

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Postby Ayana-Me » Fri Jul 06, 2007 7:22 pm

EDIT BUTTON IS YOUR FRIEND: Ok, so you just beat me to the punch. Can anyone translate the dialouge?

And while we're at it, can someone translate the two new points on the menu of the evangelion.co.jp page? I assume the first is for the trailer, but the second grey one has like 8 different links (exciting). Unfortunately the text is flash, not text.

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Postby Szmitten » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:22 am

All I can tell is that:
-Tokyo-3 looks the same
-Sachiel, Shamshel and Ramiel
-Sachiel gets missiles again
-Shamshel has a core in its mouth
-Ramiel is particularly "enormous"
-Touji still beats up Shinji
-Shots of various regions (Osaka, North Korea) with and without electricity
-LCL is now black? (black moon/black LCL, white moon/white LCL?)
-New animation, but some scenes are shot-for-shot the same

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Postby Big Panda » Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:29 am

LCL Black? OMG! They've ruined it!
It's now unwatchable and a total failure.

/sarcasm

This may be sarcasm, but I'm SURE there would be people acting like this. (Just see the Weva Sho thread)
I guess it's time for a decent sig right? NAHHHHHHHH

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Postby Reichu » Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:02 am

If the LCL is black, how will we be able to see the pilots? Or how will THEY see anything, for that matter? LOL.

Here's a rough translation I decided to do for the hell of it. Not the whole thing, but it's enough to hold people off.

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<bunch of stuff I didn't bother with>

- First up, the Clockworks logo mark.
- Then, a cut with Hikaru Utada "fly me ~" being written out against a black background.
- Next, the New Theatrical Feature footage starts to play in union with "fly me~".
- From start to finish, the characters say absolutely nothing. Likewise with sound effects.
- After the footage ends, the title logo "Evangelion New Theatrical Feature: Prelude" is written horizontally in red against black.
- After that, the text "Out on September 1, 2007"
- It concludes with an ad for the third round of advance booking. An image of Ayanami is on the right-hand side of the screen; on the left, the text "On Sale July 7".
- The preview's running time is approximately a minute.

That's it in a nutshell. From here I'll discuss the footage in detail (though my memory's vague...).

It starts off with the Angels. (* Apologies, I don't remember what order these were in.)

- Ramiel is looking awesome. The surrounding scenery is perfectly reflected on the cube. [I don't know if it's a mistake, but they say a six-sided figure, rather than eight...]
- A cut that approaches Ramiel from Tokyo-3. It advances to the foreground from deeper in.
- Next, it goes on to Sachiel and Shamshel.
- Sachiel is being bombed. This cut is compositionally almost the same as episode #01 of old Eva. A cut of it emerging from the mountains.
- Cut of Shamshel opening a large mouth. The whip-like hands are still present. The core is inside the mouth. I'll just say that it was kinda creepy.

On the Characters 1...

- Familiar scene of Gendo with arm in arm. [The "Gendo pose", I'd presume.] Is Fuyutsuki after that?
- Close-up of Gendo's face. Oblique angle. He bears an expression of sorrow (?).
- The scene of Shinji being beaten by Toji is here. Angle is about the same as episode #03 of old Eva. Toji grabs Shinji by the collar.
- There's also the scene of Ayanami sitting by the classroom window. In bandages, of course. She's just as cute as she was before (I know it's subjective, BUT...)
- Shinji enters. In the opening segment of old Eva's "Moment and Heart Together" [episode #09], there was a scene on a pedestrian bridge in front of the school, but here a weary Shinji descends from a pedestrian bridge on an escalator. The same school students are on top of the bridge. Of course, Asuka is not present this time.

The key frame animation seems to be entirely new. In the preview, it appears that there is no borrowing from old Eva. There were only a few scenes in which the composition and angles are roughly the same.

On the Characters 2...

- A cut of Shinji's eye. It takes up the entire screen.
- From there the camera pulls out and we see Shinji (in full) inside a cockpit being flooded with LCL.
- The LCL is represented as black, so it looks as though Shinji is suspended [in midair] as he clutches the control levers in the darkness.
- Towards the end of the preview, Ayanami appears again. The familiar image of her turned away, with the background of the Moon floating in darkness. About the same composition and angle as episode #06 of old Eva.
- After that (?), Shinji again (couldn't see him well, but I think he was wearing a plugsuit), and Misato-san.
- Misato turning away (left cheek is showing), after which she faces us again.
- Misato's face is very calm. It's like she has total peace of mind. A slight smile? Maybe this is the "I believe in EVA-01's pilot, too" scene from the poster.

Misato-san is looking even cuter (yeah, it's subjective, BUT...). She evokes a sense of youth.

The cityscape... [Most of this is dodgy. I told you this would be a crap-translation.]

- Scene from old Eva episode #01 of the coastal tank unit firing is also here this time. Only they've been much more finely detailed.
- Coastal tank unit's firing is at an angle due to the slanted overhead view. There is a lovely zoom-in.
- Because so many missiles are fired, it looks like Itao Circus (?) here.
- Most of the missiles rained down on Sachiel's face. That was so sad...
- There was the scene of the explosive pillar rising from a distant angle.
- The scene of the explosive flame that advances along the crossroads in the urban area, which was in episode #02 of old Eva. (It doesn't go up into the sky. Hard to explain.)
- There was some sort of scene comprised of downtown electric lines, which was in EOE's live action segment.
- Scene of an armament [?] building springing up from the ground. The angle is from the perspective of ground level (within Tokyo-3).
- The side of the armament building becomes solar [panel?]-looking.

I don't know what the deal with the LCL being black is. [Something along those lines.]
From here on out I'll be writing down my impressions, etc., on the characters' key animation and such.
<blah blah blah>

On the Evas...

- There is the familiar scene of EVA-01 emerging from within its Cage.
- The NERV logo is on EVA-01's (?)shoulder. It was drawn nice and big -- but it was unclear if this was the new logo or not.
- Halfway through the preview, depictions of the Evas at Operation Yashima start showing up.
- Scene of EVA-00 standing in the rain. EVA-01, too? The atmosphere of the environs are a lot like the picture by Mr. Honda that appeared in Newtype.
- There's the scene where EVA-01 is lying on its belly, set up with the positron rifle. It's facing frontwards in our direction.
- The Eva scenes were superb, but, for reasons beyond my grasp, the image was rather dark on the whole.
- The scene showing the islands of Japan is here. But this time it is, far as I can tell, after Operation Yashima, since electricity is returning to the entire country.
- Starting with the Hakone region, light returns to the islands in a concentric circle.
- Tokyo lighting up is really awesome. There are lots of lights across the Kanto Plain. Nagoya, Osaka, Fukuoka, etc., are pretty bright. Hereabouts, it is true to the real world.
- North Korea is completely dark.

Miscellany...

- The air about Shinji is, as far as I can tell, different from old Eva.
- He's a little like Sadamoto's rather dry version of the character.
- Were his eyes dead? For the time being, there aren't any scenes of Shinji smiling.
- Ayanami and Shinji appear about three times each; Gendo, Toji, and Misato about one.
- The animation was at a rather high level. But the composition and angles are still the same.
- Since CG was employed, it's become more realistic, as one would expect. But I don't think I got any bad vibes from the CG itself.
- Ramiel was amazing. Just at first glimpse, it felt like a whole cut above old Eva.
- Did the characters, overall, take on a more roundish appearance? With [some?] characters excepted, too. [<--???] But this is ultimately subjective. The character images in Newtype 5/07 seem to be the closest.
- I thought Ayamami and Misato were cute enough (it IS ultimately subjective...). <And something about Ayanami smiling, possibly bad>
- As you'd expect of a movie, the quality is fantastic! <Anno, animation, something something...>

<Stuff about "spy photos" and how it wasn't possible to get any, or suchlike>


- The most I've been able to confirm are Ayanami, Shinji, Toji, Gendo, and Misato. Not sure about Fuyutsuki.
- Kaworu, Ritsuko, and the various operators have not been confirmed. Asuka is, naturally, not present.

[That will probably be it for me.]
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:35 am

Thanks for your work, Reichu! ^_^


Hmmm....Personally, I'm excited about this...But how do you have BLACK LCL? I think that'd make Rebuild's versions of Yume no Sukima and I Need You (if we even get those) just, uh...bizarre. (And don't get me started on how weird Komm Susser Tod would be!)

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Postby NAveryW » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:38 am

Waitwait-a-waitwaitwait! A couple of you people have seen the trailer? Where TF is it?!


And of course I have to make a reference to SFAiBL.

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Postby BrikHaus » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:51 am

Seriously you guys, hook us up with a link.
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Postby Ayana-Me » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:52 am

NAveryW wrote:Waitwait-a-waitwaitwait! A couple of you people have seen the trailer? Where TF is it?!

No, people here are just translating a Japanese blog description of the trailer.

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Postby NAveryW » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:59 am

Oh.
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Postby CtHuLhU » Sat Jul 07, 2007 1:11 pm

1. Tonight in the jap theaters will be showing trailer again.
2. The entire volume of third pre-sale tickets was sold in record time.
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Postby Millions Livio » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:59 pm

I have to admit that I am rather disappointed that the trailer is still not up for us. It makes me question how long it will take for the full movie to become uploaded.

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Postby NAveryW » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:17 pm

I'd better get a frakking Youtube file or something this time.

Seriously, someone bringing in a camcorder might get stopped at the entrance, but after explaining it was for an altruistic mission to bring the Weva trailer to the poor gaijin, I'm sure it would be condoned.
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Postby Thamaker » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:20 pm

well..even if the trailer comes up we still have to wait a month and a half so...happy waiting?

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Postby Mr. Tines » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:31 pm

Reichu wrote:If the LCL is black, how will we be able to see the pilots? Or how will THEY see anything, for that matter? LOL.


Black LCL? Sounds like Children of an Elder God to me.

They will just have to see things via input through the A-10 shunt ( :lol: old controversy ); we will see them floating in blackness as poetic narrative license.
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Postby Reichu » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:45 pm

Added "Character Connection 2". Setting is apparently after that.
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Postby JP » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:08 pm

Speaking of the trailer, has anyone seen this pic?


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It at least gives me sOmE idea on what this things supposed to look like.


That black LCL should give Terminal Dogma an interesting atmosphere. If it's kept the same.
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