Evangelion シン?

[Nuclear Lunchbox]

Saw this image in one of Neweva's posts. Are those シン characters in the FINAL slot old hat, or something new?

[TheDrmcvey]

The colored symbols. The 4th connects with the 1st and the 3rd connects with the 2nd. Oh wow! The 4th may lead to the beginning of the 1st film. Anno's had this planned out from the very beginning.

[ElMariachi]

Doesn't these last characters mean "Shin", like in the official title of the Rebuild project: "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban" ("Evangelion New Theatrical Edition"), the "Shin" meaning "new"? (although here it's in Katakana, while in the official title it's in kanjis)

Then that would mean that the four parts are named: "Jo-Ha-Q-Shin", or in English "Beginning-Break-Quickening-New"?

But then a "new" what: the beginning of a new story once the previous one is over, representing the new life the characters will be able to begin once the war is over? Does it represent the prologue of a new series that will continue the story past the quadrilogy? New time loop?

Also, notice that the musical symbol that could mean "End" or "Repeat" is still here, at the far right.

[Nuclear Lunchbox]

It also could be "Shin" as in "Shinji". Just a thought.

[ElMariachi]

Just to be sure, in which article from NewEva you found this image, because they too love to speculate and create images to illustrate their peculations, so that might be just that.
The official site still refers to the fourth movie as "FINAL" and use the "|" symbol.

[Nuclear Lunchbox]

For all I know, it could just be a Neweva thing. I posted it here because it had potential to be something- but if it isn't, at least some speculah came of it.

[ElMariachi]

I think it's just a Neweva thing, it only appears on their article that dates from January, and for the "Shin", it probably comes from how the order of words in the title changed for FINAL:
Before it was "Evangerion Shin Gekijōban: Jo/Ha/Q", and for FINAL it's "Shin Evangerion Gekijōban|", so they used that.

[Nuclear Lunchbox]

Also, is it just me, or does Khara's official logo look different to you?

[ElMariachi]

Errrr... no idea, honestly, for me it's still just a bunch of undecipherable glyphes with a musical symbol at the end.

[FreakyFilmFan4ever]

That’s absurdly clever of whoever it was that came up with that image. I’d rather wait until I see something official from Khara before I get excited about it, though.

[TMBounty_Hunter]

This is as old as Q is. Japan just likes to refer to Final as シン ever since that was announced for the sake of brevity, especially on twitter and etc. Same as using 序/破/Ｑ vs 1.0, 2.0, 3.0.

Honestly I think we should follow suit because even in english typing Jo/Ha/Q/Shin is less effort than 1.0/2.0/3.0/Final.

Also because ShinEva was never really about Shin as in 新 (New) but it was Shin as in 真 (True/genuine) instead.

[Sailor Star Dust]

TM beat me to it! I thought the source of that particular image is 3.0's 6 minute Preview on NicoNico, no?

Also, old but fun comparisons:

ヱヴァンゲリヲン新劇場版:Q

Evangelion New Theatrical Edition: Q

シン・エヴァンゲリオン劇場版: ||

New Evangelion Theatrical Edition: ||

[svenge]

Also of note is that in Jo/Ha/Q, "shin" uses the kanji "新", while in Final / | a kana-based phonetic rendition is used. Here's a full breakdown of the titles' compentents:

ヱヴァンゲリヲン新劇場版:序/破/Q
ヱヴァンゲリヲン | 新 | 劇場 | 版
Evangelion (using archaic kana for "we" and "wo" to replace "e" and "o") | "New" (using same kanji as in TV series' title) | kanji for "Theater" | kanji for "Edition" | Colon (English punctuation mark) | Beginning/Break/Q (the letter Q stands in for "Kyu", or rapid in this instance)

シン・エヴァンゲリオン劇場版 |
シン | エヴァンゲリオン | 劇場 | 版 | |
Shin (phonetic, meaning assumed as "New") | Evangelion (using TV series' title spelling) | kanji for "Theater" | kanji for "Edition" | "Musical Symbol Right Repeat Sign" (per the Unicode definition)

Note that there is no colon in Final's Japanese title.

[ElMariachi]

Note that there is no colon in Final's Japanese title.

Well, it's ambiguous, the musical symbol could be the one for repeat (:||), or the title could have a colon, in which case the symbol is one of end (||), as in the end of the song.

[svenge]

Well, it's ambiguous, the musical symbol could be the one for repeat (:||), or the title could have a colon, in which case the symbol is one of end (||), as in the end of the song.

The spacing's all wrong for it to be a colon in Final's title.

Note that the colon in Jo/Ha/Q's titles is full-width, which leaves a rather sizeable gap between the two dots themselves and the kanji to the left and right of them. In comparision the two dots in the " | " symbol are much closer to the left-side kanji and remaining " || " part of the symbol, and the " : " part is ever-so-slightly closer to " || " than the kanji. As such, the most logical way to parse the symbol is as "MUSICAL SYMBOL RIGHT REPEAT SIGN" instead of a colon in front of "MUSICAL SYMBOL FINAL BARLINE".

Spacing aside, the dots in Jo/Ha/Q's colon are vertically stretched into ovals, whereas the dot components of " | " are perfectly round. Then again since the logo for Jo/Ha/Q uses a narrower font than the logo for Final, the oval-style colon might be an artifact of that...

Of course this is strictly a view of the typography itself, and does not have anything to do with "sequel theory" or any other non-lexical meta-analysis.

[Sailor Star Dust]

Isn't the spacing just different because of how wonky || is spacing-wise compared to the 序 and 破 kanji, and Q?

[svenge]

Isn't the spacing just different because of how wonky || is spacing-wise compared to the 序 and 破 kanji, and Q?

No, because " | " is properly rendered as one indivisible character with its own intra-character spacing between the three components thereof. We're only using a colon and two vertical bars (with the latter bar bolded) separately to render it here because only five fonts support this obscure part of the Unicode specification...

[robersora]

Just what I expected from the master. Man, it would be so twisted if the first half of Final would be an actual Hollywoodesque explosive final, only to go back in the second half to show us what the first three movies gapped, leaving us in the dark if this is in fact a repetition or just non-chronological storytelling.
And, I'm really curious to see the English subtitle, after alone, advance and redo...

You must (not) love.

[ChaddyManPrime]

^
You can (not) Forgive
You can Forgive
You can have Forgiveness
...But you can have Forgiveness

[Guy Nacks]

I posted a list of potential titles I thought FINAL was gonna be given a long time ago and I'm too lazy to find it, but a couple I remember were:


You Will (not) Survive

You Must (not) Run Away (this one's a little too obvious)