3.0 is a prequel

UBERGEEKZILLA · Postby **UBERGEEKZILLA** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:07 am

lets face it....it has to be. they never mention ANYTHING that happened after the end of 2.0 the scene where karowu clearly STOPPED third impact. and said " this time". 3.0 must be a prequal showing why Karouw is going back in time and repeating everything to get it right. ALSO the graves you see at the end of 1.0 all those graves are the numerous times karouw has restarted in order to get it right. i bet the first half of 4.0 will be how the world ends and everyone dies. and the second half will catch up to where the ending of 2.0 left off and then it will conclude how it all ends.

Shinoyami65 · Postby **Shinoyami65** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:09 am

That could happen..Although I doubt it. I'm not a big fan of the "Kaworu-time-travelling" stuff anyhow, but I don't think there's much proof to show that 3.0 is a prequel. First of all, Misato and Co. show Shinji scenes from 2I, and Shinji also has flashbacks of the same- indicating that the events of 2.0 already happened. We also don't see any concrete evidence that 3I was actually stopped; it could have been put on hold or paused (note that Asuka tries to stop 3I from "starting up again" as 4I begins, indicating that it was paused but resumed at some point).

Proof that the events of 2.0 really happened prior to 3.0 instead of the other way around can be found in the existence of the Mark.06, Kaworu's statements about the Lance of Cassius, the flashbacks to 2I, Shinji talking about saving Rei and how Rei was holding the S-DAT when he saved her, etc. If the post-credits scene hadn't happened, Eva-01 would have already ascended to Godhood and we'd have something like the end of EoE.

Postby **Mr. Tines** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:19 am

I think I shall have to file this tendency to reach for time-loop/reset Peggy-Sue models at the least provocation alongside the zombie apocalypse as just one of those things about the (primarily USAn) younger generation that I will never get. Has film and TV made the magical do-over that much of a default trope?

riffraff11235 · Postby **riffraff11235** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:30 am

@Mr. Tines Though I agree with you for the most part, I must concede that Rebuild has made several nods towards some sort of time-looping mechanic thus far. However, the idea of Q being a prequel is new to me. It doesn't make much sense as far as I'm concerned, seeing as the events of Ha are directly referenced in Q....

Lord ikari shinji · Postby **Lord ikari shinji** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:37 am

Wishful thinking but no, 3.0 was no prequel its a new take on the story of eva.

Disappointing to some/ exciting to many :lol:

YouTube · Postby **Reichu** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:50 am

3.0 is indeed a prequel.

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To Final.

Postby **FreakyFilmFan4ever** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:40 am

Reichu wrote:3.0 is indeed a prequel.

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To Final.

Woah...

WunderBah · Postby **WunderBah** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:35 am

Reichu wrote:3.0 is indeed a prequel.

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To Final.

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ElMariachi · Postby **ElMariachi** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:31 pm

Reichu wrote:3.0 is indeed a prequel.

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To Final.

Mr. Tines wrote:Has film and TV made the magical do-over that much of a default trope?

Well, maybe it's just me, but I seem to see a lot more of time-loops and reset buttons in anime for some years, like :

SPOILER: Show

CLANNAD, Madoka Magika, Haruhi Suzumiya, Steins;Gate, Muv Luv, Mirai Nikki...

and of course the end of the Evangelion manga.

If I must make a guess, that trend seems to come from the huge popularity of Visual Novels and their multiples endings, which are massively adapted in animated form and tend to use this trope to show as much of the original material's endings as possible, which in turn made many Visual Novels use this trope to justify their multiple endings(and maybe to make it easier for the possible later animated adaptation)

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole deal in You Can (Not) Redo with the spears is revealed to be Anno deconstructing the trope of time loops and reset buttons by having the miraculous spears being a trap laid by Gendo(and which maybe wouldn't even had repaired everything the way Shinji hoped) and Kaworu looping through time or traveling through dimensions ending in continuous failures at making Shinji happy because of his insistence in going solo.(something he did again in Q by treating WILLE as enemies of Shinji's happiness instead of potential allies)

Also, it's actually not the first time I saw the theory that Q is in fact a prequel of Jo and Ha, I saw it mostly in Japanese sites.

TMBounty_Hunter · Postby **TMBounty_Hunter** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 1:54 pm

Loops and resets are really stupid and the absolute cheapest of all the available options.

Edit: probably should clarify that as an ending, loops and resets are stupid. If the creators dedicate the proper amount of effort to weave them throughout the work they can be interesting. But if you just magic shit away at the end that's just wasting the entire work.

Rei IV · Postby **Rei IV** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:27 pm

TMBounty_Hunter wrote:Loops and resets are really stupid and the absolute cheapest of all the available options.

Edit: probably should clarify that as an ending, loops and resets are stupid. If the creators dedicate the proper amount of effort to weave them throughout the work they can be interesting. But if you just magic shit away at the end that's just wasting the entire work.

QFT.

Postby **UrsusArctos** » Fri Dec 27, 2013 2:47 pm

Anno might be a sucker for Hindu/Buddhist cosmology, in which the world functions as a long, long series of eras. To use that old Battlestar Galactica trope, "All of this has happened before and will happen again". It would be a shame if AOTHHBAWHA turns up here, because it would really be the laziest and most tired of cliches, as bad as having Shinji wake up and find out it's all a dream.

Mr. Tines wrote:I think I shall have to file this tendency to reach for time-loop/reset Peggy-Sue models at the least provocation alongside the zombie apocalypse as just one of those things about the (primarily USAn) younger generation that I will never get. Has film and TV made the magical do-over that much of a default trope?

If there's anyone to blame for apocalyptic thinking, I'd blame Zarathustra Spitama, the first man to envision the apocalyptic battle between good and evil. Regarding the USAn younger generation and its own craze for apocalypses - well, I'm not American, but I get the impression that there's more disillusionment than ever in the US and a greater desire for a "quick fix" rather than a hard, long grind to fix a mess that had been coming over the ages - a desire for better things but without the work that goes into it. Just my theory, and nothing else.

Ah Q · Postby **Ah Q** » Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:33 pm

I'm stuck at home after undergoing a minor surgery, so I rewatched 1.11 today. Twice. (Hey, I'm stuck in bed and have lots of time on my hands.) The time traveling theory has always struck me as too far-fetched, but after watching the Kaworu scene at the end of 1.11 a couple times in succession, I have to admit that there may be something to it.

Guy Nacks · Postby **Guy Nacks** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:12 am

Nadia is a prequel to 3.0, which is a prequel to NGE, which is a prequel to Gunbuster, which is a prequel to Diebuster, which is a prequel to Love & Pop.

Postby **Sailor Star Dust** » Fri Jan 10, 2014 12:15 am

Time to give this thread a mercy killing; I can tell it's gonna be the same old rehashing of countless other threads. I guess sequel theory hopes haven't died down at all? 3.0 being a prequel to anything but Final is just silly.

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