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Postby 1731298478 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:26 am

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:So I wanted to see if maybe those Relationship Diagram Character Sheets for Webuild and Puchi Eva could be translated, but they're not really OCRable. At least not at the level/way they were scanned.


Those diagrams are cute ^^

As you can't OCR it, I tried to just put down all the terms from the Rebuild diagram so people who are interested can follow it. (In the examples, person A points towards person B.)

同僚: Colleague. Person A and person B are colleagues.
興味: Interest. Person A is interested (for some reason) in this other person. This could be romantic interest, etc.
友人: Friend. Person A and person B are friends.
大学からの友人: Friend from University.
親友: Close friend. Person A and person B are close friends.
上司: Higher authority. Person B is person A's authority.
部下: Subordinate. Person B is subordinate to person A.
尊敬: Reverence. Person A reveres person B.
級友: Classmate. Person A and person B are classmates.
信頼: Trust. Person A relies on person B.
保護: Guardian. Person A is responsible for person B.
ライバル: Rival. Person A regards person B as a rival.
子: Child. Person B is person A's child.
父親: Father. Person B is person A's father.
協力, 協力者: Collaborator. Persons A and B are collaborators.
運営: Management. Person A manages person B.
従う素振り: Acts Obediently. Person A obeys person B.
裏仕事を任せる: Entrusts With Secret Work.
監視: Surveillance.
元恋人: Ex-lover.
同居: Roommate.
複雑な思い: "Complicated feelings."
親愛?: "Deep Affection?"
思慕?: "Yearning?"
知ってる?: "Knows?" Does person A somehow know person B?
?: ?????

This is for people interested in the Puchi Eva diagram. Originally I used arrows, but I couldn't get it to post correctly. So "x" represents an arrow pointing both ways, while "^" represents an arrow pointing one direction (from left to right).

Groupings: The Three Ayanami Sisters, The Eva Household, Angel School, Operators, Nerv Academy Junior High School: Students, Nerv Academy Junior High School: Head Director and Faculty Members

Rei Ayanami (First Girl) x Supo-kon (Second Girl) x Chibinami (Third Girl): Sisters
Evan-Chan (First Girl) x Evancho (First Boy): Older brother and younger sister
Evancho x Eva 次郎 (Second Boy): Brothers
Eva 次郎 x Eva 美 (Second Girl): Older sister and younger brother
Eva 美 ^ [class]: Transfer
Evancho x Zeruel Banchou: Rivals
Keel-san (Head Director) ^ Maya Ibuki: Fan
Gendou Ikari (Principal) x Kouzou Fuyutsuki (Vice-Principal): Good Combination
Gendou Ikari x Yui Ikari (Home Economics Teacher): Husband and Wife
Gendou Ikari + Yui Ikari x Shinji Ikari: Parents and Child
Ritsuko Akagi (Public Health Doctor)
Misato Katsuragi (Japanese Teacher) ^ [class]: In Charge
Ryouji Kaji (Math Teacher)
Mari Illustrious Makinami ^ [class]: Transfer
JA-ko ("Jeiko") ^ Evancho: Unrequited Love
Evancho x Shinji Ikari: Close Friends, Understand [Each Other's] Words
Kaworu Nagisa ^ Shinji Ikari: "Shinji-kun <3"
Asuka Langley Souryuu ^ Shinji Ikari: "Baka-Shinji"
Asuka Langley Souryuu ^ Ryouji Kaji: Unrequited Love
Touji Suzuhara x Kensuke Aida: Close Friends
Touji Suzuhara x Hikari Horaki: Requited Love?
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Postby Seele00TextOnly » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:09 am

Alright! Thanks 1731!

Points of interest from the character diagram chart:
-Mari is explicitly Kaji's subordinate and he is her authority
-Yes, Hikari and Asuka are officially friends
-Toji and Kensuke are 'close friends' and they are each 'close friends' with Shinji.
-Maya reveres Ritsuko
-"Is Rei yearning for Shinji?"
-Asuka and Mari are interested in Shinji
-Shinji is interested in Asuka and Rei
-there is no line showing Shinji's anything for Mari
-Gendo 'acts obediently' to Seele01 (yeah right)
-"Does Gendo have deep affection for Rei?"
-"Does Kaworu know Shinji?"
-no link was included between Kaji and Asuka or Kaji and Shinji at all. Talk about subcharacter. I guess there just wasn't room. :(
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Postby esselfortium » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:57 am

View Original PostSeele00TextOnly wrote:-Yes, Hikari and Asuka are officially friends
-Shinji is interested in Asuka and Rei

I never would've figured these ones out just from watching the film. (No, seriously, I wouldn't have.) It's weird, some of this stuff that was intended but didn't really come through. Hikari and Asuka must have become friends offscreen at some point after the scene where Asuka angrily passes off her bento to her in jealousy and frustration. :-\

-no link was included between Kaji and Asuka or Kaji and Shinji at all. Talk about subcharacter. I guess there just wasn't room. :(

Lame. No Kaji relation = no wonder this Shinji is so irresponsible :(

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Postby SaltyJoe » Mon Nov 29, 2010 11:55 am

Thanks to Fazmotron and to 1731298473 for the delicious scans and the much needed translations!

Gendo and his "Personarity". Oh, Engrish.

I would like to ask any potential translators for a rough interpretation of Mari's "Personality" description. I'm really interested in hearing what sort of vibes the peeps making NME think we should have got from her.

Also, Kaworu is apparently not part of any organization. Strange.

-Hikari and Asuka are friends

My ass, Khara.

View Original PostSeele00TextOnly wrote:-Toji and Kensuke, however, are given full character status instead of sub. Over Kaji. Much like the movies. My teeth are grinding.

Glad to hear i wasn't the only one going "What is this world coming to?" at that.
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Postby Azathoth » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:00 pm

View Original PostSaltyJoe wrote:Also, Kaworu is apparently not part of any organization. Strange.


Kaworu's trollin'. I've said it before.
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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Mon Nov 29, 2010 1:34 pm

View Original PostTMBounty_Hunter wrote:In both TV and NME Eva-00 gains a new chestplate design as well as pylons and a paint job. Although in NME the only paintjob difference is the white going away from the thighs.

Yeah, I noticed only the pylons (and I wonder if they're enough to give the unit a "kai" status), my lack of attention to details didn't allow me to notice the painting (and for some reason I never noticed the different chestplate in NME, I think that it's the almost unchanged painting that diverted my attention, with the blue and white one it was more easy to see the changed chestplate; but maybe it's just my impression).
Yet once again: too bad for the lacking of the blue and white painting, it paired well with Rei just like Asuka's colours are red and orange.
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Postby 1731298478 » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:34 pm

View Original PostSaltyJoe wrote:I would like to ask any potential translators for a rough interpretation of Mari's "Personality" description. I'm really interested in hearing what sort of vibes the peeps making NME think we should have got from her.


It's something like:

"The emotionally expressive Mari's most characteristic expression is probably a fearless smile. One could say that her smile, which she maintains even in hopeless situations, is a manifestation of her bottomless strength.

The fearless and yet provocative smiling expression Mari always wears against the enemy surely [marks her as] someone who was born to fight. Despite this bravery, the fact that, when her emotions rise up, even in the midst of battle, she involuntarily ends words with the sound "nya," [shows that] she has a cute side."

^^

I think she says "nya" a couple of times in the Zeruel fight. You can hear it, for example, when Shinji sees Unit-02's head land in front of him and she says something like, "I almost died, nya."

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Postby SaltyJoe » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:50 pm

Thank you!

So i guess gauging Mari as part hot blooded pilot, part excitable kid is on the money.
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Postby Chrad » Thu Dec 09, 2010 12:11 am

View Original Post1731298478 wrote:The fearless and yet provocative smiling expression Mari always wears against the enemy surely [marks her as] someone who was born to fight. Despite this bravery, the fact that, when her emotions rise up, even in the midst of battle, she involuntarily ends words with the sound "nya," [shows that] she has a cute side."
Personally, I think involuntarily ending words with the sound "nya" in the middle of life-or-death battles just makes you fucking crazy. Maybe it's just me.

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Postby chaosakita » Fri Dec 10, 2010 6:39 pm

I wonder if there's anything else of note in there.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:18 pm

IIRC, the book has some sort of Anno interview along with interviews of the other Kara crew. That should be interesting I'd think. :3
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Postby Reichu » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:24 am

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:IIRC, the book has some sort of Anno interview along with interviews of the other Kara crew. That should be interesting I'd think. :3

Evangelion Chronicle is a "book"?

View Original PostTMBounty_Hunter wrote:That ′ mean modified. Similar to 改 (かいkai (n-suf) revision). Japan loves that kanji for mecha design when adjusting/redesigning stuff.

It just looks like Rebuild is doing the same thing but using the prime symbol communicate the modification.

NGE-related materials use the prime symbol to designate Eva-00's upgraded model as well.

(Remember, everybody: If you think it might be "new" in NME, rule out that it wasn't there all along and escaped your notice before you proclaim that it's new.)

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:36 am

View Original PostReichu wrote:Evangelion Chronicle is a "book"?


...Oh FFS. I'm mixing up Chronicle and Complete Records Collection. (I actually mentally did that the other day before correcting myself.)

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Postby Seele00TextOnly » Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:39 am

Well I still think any possible tidbits about Tunniel (the experimentations, how it was apprehended/kept, that weird entry plug thing...) that ~might~ be referenced on its page would be very interesting. I wish I could read the moonrunes to help out. ;__;
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Postby Reichu » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:58 pm

I scanned over Tunni's page and nothing popped out at me. Seemed like a lot of restating the obvious (which Chronicle is masterful at). They might be saving the good stuff for post-Q reprints...

The Tunni-related stuff in 2.0 CRC is probably more interesting, TBH.

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Postby dabeast1 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:22 pm

Can someone tell where is this information about Mari from? And please send me the scans of information source thank.

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Postby dabeast1 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 9:40 pm

Where is this character chart from?


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