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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:08 pm

[Thread was initially locked for redundant start, but I reopened it because a thread dedicated to homages/references/etc. in NME specifically didn't seem like a bad idea. -Reichu]


Interesting find. Montage music inspired from another film:

http://wildgrounds.com/index.php/2010/05/31/the-man-who-stole-evangelion-2-22/

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Postby ZapX » Tue Jun 01, 2010 9:23 pm

Yeah, we've known about that for a while and have discussed it in IRC. Has it not been posted here before?
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Postby NAveryW » Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:11 pm

It was discussed in the music thread.

The track is used more than once in the film, however-- the full version is heard during a montage elsewhere in the film. You also hear the motif throughout the soundtrack; it's Inspector Yamashita's theme.
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Postby ZapX » Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:16 pm

Welp, no need for this one then, I guess.
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Postby Eric Blair » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:02 pm

Was it just me or was Mari/Shinji's kiss scene some sort of homage to Asuka/Shinji's almost kiss in NGE episode 9? the way Mari seemed to be closing her eyes and the angle made it seem like she was lying down, sleeping while Shinji was blushing a bright red.
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Postby Taekmkm » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:30 pm

INAZUMA KICK!!!!
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Postby NAveryW » Thu Jun 03, 2010 8:57 pm

View Original PostTaekmkm wrote:INAZUMA KICK!!!!
Rider Kick.

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Postby NemZ » Thu Jun 03, 2010 9:20 pm

(I'm not taking credit for spotting all of these, just listing them)

The conclusion of the Zeruel fight contains an homage to episode 39 of Revolutionary Girl Utena.

The decontamination process at the water treatment plan is an homage to The Andromeda Strain.

The dummy plug activation noise is a line of dialog from Colossus: The Forbin Project

The layout of various Nerv installations borrow location names from The Divine Comedy.
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Postby sephirotic » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:11 pm

View Original PostZapX wrote:Yeah, we've known about that for a while and have discussed it in IRC. Has it not been posted here before?


Sorry for the off post, but where do you guys chat in irc? With channel/serve? Can i have the link? thanx!
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Postby ZapX » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:23 pm

It's irc://irc.rizon.net/egf If you need help with registering, check out this thread.
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Postby Mr. Tines » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:37 am

View Original PostNemZ wrote:The decontamination process at the water treatment plan is an homage to The Andromeda Strain.

The layout of various Nerv installations borrow location names from The Divine Comedy.
These are not so Rebuild specific -- episodes 13 and 24 respectively.
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Postby NAveryW » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:58 am

View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:These are not so Rebuild specific -- episodes 13 and 24 respectively.
The Andromeda Strain's decontamination process was never referenced before and the terms from The Divine Comedy were used in a different context.

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Postby Mr. Tines » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:02 am

View Original PostNAveryW wrote:The Andromeda Strain's decontamination process was never referenced before
I respectfully beg to disagree.

episode 13 wrote:* An elevator ascends the huge vertical hole

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changing your undies are not enough.

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auto-piloting test?

Ritsuko: Not only does time progress, but the technology of EVA as well.
We always need new data.

Asuka: What?

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* Door Opens. All three pilots are naked.

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Postby NAveryW » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:06 am

k. Still, like The Divine Comedy, the reference is in a different context this time. And presented differently.

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Postby Tarage » Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:40 am

It's been said in other threads, but I'll repeat it here.

When the Dummy System is activated, it makes a sound, it sounds like some computer voice. Here is what it says when reversed:

"Freedom is an illusion. All you lose is the emotion of pride. To be dominated by me is not as bad for human pride as to be dominated by others of your species."

It's a quote from the cult classic sci-fi film Colossus: The Forbidden Project. The context is The speech that Colossus makes at the end of the film when he has successfully dominated humanity.

Another Sci-fi reference is the number on the shuttle Gendo is in. It's FX5 1701. The FX5 is a reference to Firebal XL5. The 1701 is the number of the Enterprise.

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Postby MugwumpHasNoLiver » Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:09 am

View Original PostNAveryW wrote:k. Still, like The Divine Comedy, the reference is in a different context this time. And presented differently.


Although the references are different, the context is still the same. I believe in 22, when Eva-00 is getting the Spear, the deeper layers of Dogma are referred to as the "Malebolge Trenches". Rebuild keeps the "Nerve is Hell" thing, but references different parts of it, which really only makes it more overt.
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Postby Legendary » Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:01 am

Rebuild DOES however expand into things like bases named Golgotha, which are not references to hell. This is a new context.

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Postby NAveryW » Fri Jun 11, 2010 1:22 am

You can't tell from still screenshots, but these columns in the back of Ritsuko's computer room have the red dots moving left and right at varying speeds.

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I saw Jurassic Park in a theater tonight and noticed very similar columns all over the park's control room. Not exactly the same, but still black columns with red dots moving left and right. I don't own Jurassic Park on DVD, so a big thank you goes to Reichu for these screenshots.

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Postby Monk Ed » Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:41 pm

View Original PostEric Blair wrote:Was it just me or was Mari/Shinji's kiss scene

Wait, what? I just watched 2.22 recently and I don't remember that.
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