Shinji & Rei in Q/3.0

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[Spoilers] Shinji & Rei in Q/3.0

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Postby QTCHR » Sat Dec 05, 2009 10:15 pm

will Shinji be a hypocrite to and turn away from Rei in the third rebuild?

that would suck big time (i mean he seems less of a jerk this time

around..). In the series of rebuild Asuka still has feelings for Shinji, but

the emphasis clearly lies with Rei. in addition to that, how is Shinji

mentally breaking down? In the second rebuild things seem to be honky

donkey expect between father and son. i see no reasons for Shinji to go

through the course of actions as in the two film that wrapped the original

series...which also leads to the fear of Rei. then again Rei has not died

but the discorvery (if it will take place) would it still give Shinji second

thoughts.. that would make him a jerk..

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Postby AuraTwilight » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:50 am

It's already been stated that Rebuild is going to follow a different plot and have a different, new ending from the original series. It's possible Shinji may not betray Rei at all.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:06 am

First things first, please the :rulez: , it's hard to read your post.

Anyway, I never noticed anything of Shinji betraying Rei in NGE other then understandable fear of her. If you mean will Rei/Shinji become a couple, it's hard to say though I personally doubt it. Themetically-speaking with Rei still being from Yui and Lilith it'd make no sense.
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Postby SaltyJoe » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:00 am

That is a question that could only be answered by Anno at this point, and if he is still his old self, he will probably go through a lot of different scenarios before churning out the finalized script.

For drama requirements, both angles could work: Shinji standing by Rei or running away from her both could be molded into a powerful narrative element.

IMO, a more intersting question would be how would this new, more emotional Rei react to a revelation about her origins? She knows that she is a clone, but i don't think she knows who she is a clone of.

And as for Shinji not being traumatized enough: what do you think the rest of the movies are for?
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Postby Napul » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:34 am

For attention from preview is:
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plus the fact that Shinji is not appeared in preview.
What could that mean?:headscratch:

Possibly:

Shinji is not physically appear in 3.0? :think: (viz: "You'll lose your humanity!")

One body with Rei? O_o ....... :nosebleed:

Maybe. :rolleyes:
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Postby SaltyJoe » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:55 am

ukulelembo wrote:One body with Rei? O_o ....... :nosebleed:

I can't decide whether i be awed or squicked if that were the case.
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Postby GasmaskAvenger » Sun Dec 06, 2009 8:56 am

personally, all bets are off


just about anything can happen in the final Rebuild entries
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Postby Napul » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:15 am

GasmaskAvenger wrote:just about anything can happen in the final Rebuild entries

Oh Yeah! :peace:
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:50 am

Dear god. Rei turning into some genki blushing schoolgirl like RiAO (ala 26) because she loves Shinji is the last thing Rebuild needs. She's subtle with feelings (and her actions--such as wanting both Ikaris to get along--speak louder than words), not exteremly emotional. Okay, now I sound like Logan but still.
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Postby Mr. Tines » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:50 pm

SaltyJoe wrote:
ukulelembo wrote:One body with Rei? O_o ....... :nosebleed:

I can't decide whether i be awed or squicked if that were the case.
I know that I'd be ROFLMAO inside if that happened!
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Postby firegirl26 » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:22 pm

wait if Rei is a clone of yui. wouldn't that make make Rei Shinji's sister/mother.
i would find it weird that Shinji dating his sister/mother
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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:35 pm

^- That whole issue has been discussed to death many times.
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Postby AuraTwilight » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:41 pm

Shinji has a huge Oedipus Complex, if you haven't noticed. Shinji and Rei isn't anything new, they already had romantic tension in the first series. Just not as much.

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Postby Rodeo » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:55 pm

Didn't Rei turn into a core and become one with Eva-01?

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Postby Joseph the PRPD » Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:06 pm

Rei and Shinji you mean? They were together and I think they went into one of the cores. I don't remember the whole scene, I'd have to re-watch the ending to be sure.
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Postby QTCHR » Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:29 pm

Sailor Star Dust wrote:First things first, please the :rulez: , it's hard to read your post.

Anyway, I never noticed anything of Shinji betraying Rei in NGE other then understandable fear of her. If you mean will Rei/Shinji become a couple, it's hard to say though I personally doubt it. Themetically-speaking with Rei still being from Yui and Lilith it'd make no sense.


And i thought double spacing it would make it easier to read :/ ah shoot. I will take that to note, but im curious as to what rule did i infringe.. O.o; or was it the fact Im labeled as an embryo XD.

and what do you mean thematically speaking?
(Though i hafta agree with what Kaji said in the locker room :yippee: heh its like star wars)

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Postby Napul » Sun Dec 06, 2009 2:47 pm

firegirl26 wrote:wait if Rei is a clone of yui. wouldn't that make make Rei Shinji's sister/mother.
i would find it weird that Shinji dating his sister/mother

Rei is not Shinji's mother.
Theory of Yui's clone is only a theory.

What is Rei?
Citation from EoE:
"This Rei is your heart."
"She embodies your hopes and your dreams."



In addition, in Rebuild is more possibilities.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:12 pm

ukulelembo wrote:
firegirl26 wrote:wait if Rei is a clone of yui. wouldn't that make make Rei Shinji's sister/mother.
i would find it weird that Shinji dating his sister/mother

Rei is not Shinji's mother.
Theory of Yui's clone is only a theory..


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A. Publicly Released Information

Data unavailable.

B. Generally Recognized Information

The Second Angel, known as Lilith. It came from the moon that carried the Black Moon (the former became Earth's satellite). Giant, or First, Impact was caused by the collision between the Moon and Earth.

C. Confidential Information

The white giant crucified in Terminal Dogma. It bore life such as apes[5] and dolphins, and, as the final form, Lilin — that is, humankind. In addition, the liquid called LCL is Lilith's body fluid.

D. In-Depth Information

Lilith had no soul. Moreover, its soul has been residing within Rei. Many copies of Rei's body were made, but that is the reason why only one of Rei herself can exist at any given time. Even though Rei was copied from Yui's flesh, this was not the case for her soul.


Some theory....

CI that applies to the original series aside, you're forgetting that 1.0 and 2.0 are hitting us over the head with the Rei=Yui connection. In 2.0 alone, Shinji says that the smell of Eva is the smell of Yui AND Rei. When Gendo and Rei talk about the eventual dinner-party, we the audience see how much Yui looks like Rei for a moment when Gendo thinks about Yui.

QTCHR: Thematically speaking in that in NGE and EoE at least, Rei has a deathwish and had no qualms with dying physically once Shinji rejected Instrumentality so he could live on and be happy. Rei is the type to selflessly give herself to people with no regard for her own well-being or safety; she cares more for others' true wants and needs then her own. And NGE shows that just because the body may die, the soul isn't going to disappear completely. (Such as with Sources of Life or if your soul ends up in an Evangelion.)
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Postby Lucretius » Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:18 pm

If anything, Rebuild makes the incest angle much more obvious than it was in the series. This doesn't mean they don't have romantic feelings for each other, but don't expect Oedipus and Jocasta to walk off into the sunset together. This arc pretty much has to end tragically.

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Postby AuraTwilight » Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:12 pm

Rei is not Shinji's mother.
Theory of Yui's clone is only a theory.


Rei is everyone's mother.
Rei being Yui's clone is a fact.

What is Rei?
Citation from EoE:
"This Rei is your heart."
"She embodies your hopes and your dreams."


You grossly misinterpreted what those lines actually meant.

This arc pretty much has to end tragically.


Why? I mean, aside from "Evangelion is a crapsack universe and everything always ends in tragedy", since this is Rebuild.


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