Why did they not give them some form of metal examination before letting them pilot multi-billion dollars worth of equipment that could destroy the world? I know they were desperate and all but really?
Why the hell pick mentally unstable people to save Earth?
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Why the hell pick mentally unstable people to save Earth?
Seriously, Shinji's mom died and his father abandoned him so he has some serious problems, Asuka's mom didn't think she was her daughter and committed suicide, giving Asuka some serious problems, and Rei, well she's problem free besides the fact she's , and Kaworu is an Angel (seriously who lets their enemy pilot whats supposed to kill them).
Why did they not give them some form of metal examination before letting them pilot multi-billion dollars worth of equipment that could destroy the world? I know they were desperate and all but really?
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UltraBlackPilot wrote:Seriously, Shinji's mom died
That's the reason, her soul is in the Eva, the same to Asuka and -02, and they knew this, at least the people making the descisions about all of it.
UltraBlackPilot wrote:Why did they not give them some form of metal examination before letting them pilot multi-billion dollars worth of equipment that could destroy the world?
NERV heads likely thought that this way they would be easier to influence and direct, Misato herself certiantly makes note of how she "uses" Shinji in this way.
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That's the reason, her soul is in the Eva, the same to Asuka and -02, and they knew this, at least the people making the descisions about all of it.
They would have had less problems if someone else had piloted Eva, not only Shinji could pilot Unit 01 he was just the best at it, and even Asuka became unable to pilot her Eva and was replaced. so regardless of the soul in its hinted at that they could at any given time replace the pilot of any given Eva at any time with any qualified person unrelated to the soul of the Eva.
NERV heads likely thought that this way they would be easier to influence and direct, Misato herself certiantly makes note of how she "uses" Shinji in this way.
That usage of Shinji Led to him quiting twice, Him nearly destroying HQ, the near destruction of all life, and Eva being awakened.
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UltraBlackPilot wrote:That's the reason, her soul is in the Eva, the same to Asuka and -02, and they knew this, at least the people making the descisions about all of it.
They would have had less problems if someone else had piloted Eva, not only Shinji could pilot Unit 01 he was just the best at it, and even Asuka became unable to pilot her Eva and was replaced. so regardless of the soul in its hinted at that they could at any given time replace the pilot of any given Eva at any time with any qualified person unrelated to the soul of the Eva.
Uhhhh.....nope.
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esselfortium wrote:UltraBlackPilot wrote:That's the reason, her soul is in the Eva, the same to Asuka and -02, and they knew this, at least the people making the descisions about all of it.
They would have had less problems if someone else had piloted Eva, not only Shinji could pilot Unit 01 he was just the best at it, and even Asuka became unable to pilot her Eva and was replaced. so regardless of the soul in its hinted at that they could at any given time replace the pilot of any given Eva at any time with any qualified person unrelated to the soul of the Eva.
Uhhhh.....nope.
How do you explain Rei having synced to unit 01 before then.
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esselfortium wrote:Because Rei is about as closely related to Unit 01's soul (Yui Ikari) as Shinji is. There's a reason why the cross-compatibility testing only included Rei and Shinji, while Asuka stayed in Unit 02.
Ah... that makes sense I thought they just wanted Asuka not to through a fit in side an Eva she couldn't control, that makes much more sense.
Then Why couldn't Gendo Pilot then, he seems more stable then Shinji or Rei and wouldn't quit? and what about Unit 00, 03, and 04 souls? and there's alway the kill happy completely mentally stable Dummy Plug, that worked every time the used it, I think but don't add that part in the quote cuz I'm not sure about it.
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UltraBlackPilot wrote:That's the reason, her soul is in the Eva, the same to Asuka and -02, and they knew this, at least the people making the descisions about all of it.
They would have had less problems if someone else had piloted Eva, not only Shinji could pilot Unit 01 he was just the best at it,
Yes, they couldn't, not to the same affect, he was the most compatible, and they considered getting EVA-01 to work a long shot to begin with, hence the nickname “09” or “oni” system. Rei herself had already been hurt by EVA-01 before the series began in trying to turn it on, that's what gave her the injuries we saw.
UltraBlackPilot wrote:and even Asuka became unable to pilot her Eva and was replaced.
so regardless of the soul in its hinted
No, Kawrou was an angel whom possessed the Eva, controlling it by means they couldn't even entirely understand, he is the exception that proves the rule.
At that point, only those whom had grown accustomed to Evas could pilot them, the fact the Dummy plug refused to work is proof of this, and that Rei was rejected by EVA-01, and Shinji by EVA-00.
UltraBlackPilot wrote:That usage of Shinji Led to him quiting twice, Him nearly destroying HQ, the near destruction of all life, and Eva being awakened.
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I never said they were completely successful, I'm saying that was their logic.
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Alaska Slim wrote:UltraBlackPilot wrote:That usage of Shinji Led to him quiting twice, Him nearly destroying HQ, the near destruction of all life, and Eva being awakened.
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I never said they were completely successful, I'm saying that was their logic.
if your not 100% sure you'll be successful why not try a more succesful path.
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UltraBlackPilot wrote:if your not 100% sure you'll be successful why not try a more succesful path.
Such as... ?
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UltraBlackPilot wrote:Alaska Slim wrote:UltraBlackPilot wrote:That usage of Shinji Led to him quiting twice, Him nearly destroying HQ, the near destruction of all life, and Eva being awakened.
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I never said they were completely successful, I'm saying that was their logic.
if your not 100% sure you'll be successful why not try a more succesful path.
Again, after Shinji left in episode 19, they tried Rei, she was rejected, they tried the dummy plug, it was rejected, what other "path" was there?
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NemZ wrote:Such as... ?
If Jet Alone hadn't been messed with it might have worked, or at least would have made the greatest explosive device ever, that huge ass rifle they used to kill Ramiel with all of japans power but automated, ACTUAL ROBOTS, Orbital Satellite Strikes, Eva instead of piloted with souls and humans why not just have made AI's like the dummy plug for them in the first place, and Chuck Norris.
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But it wasn't. Also the souls of the Evas except Unit 00 are the souls of the pilot's mothers. Which is why they go berserker. They also have free will and a mind of their own, which is why Unit 01 rejected both Rei and the DP. Plus I think it was Misato or ritsuko one who said in an episode I forgot which one it is, that that was the reason why (but maybe not explicitly but they said it was the case) that only fourteen year old kids COULD pilot the Evangelions.
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Great Genius Shinji-Sama wrote:But it wasn't. Also the souls of the Evas except Unit 00 are the souls of the pilot's mothers. Which is why they go berserker. They also have free will and a mind of their own, which is why Unit 01 rejected both Rei and the DP. Plus I think it was Misato or ritsuko one who said in an episode I forgot which one it is, that that was the reason why (but maybe not explicitly but they said it was the case) that only fourteen year old kids COULD pilot the Evangelions.
Why the hell give it a mind of its own, being as smart as they were they had to know it would think and therefore do something it wanted but they didn't, I think I remember Ritsuko saying something like that too, I why didnt they just start out with the dummy plug?
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AT Field. Only a soul can produce an AT Field and therefor the Evas needed to be alive and have a soul in them to do so. Think of all the moments in NGE where it's the AT Field and AT Field alone that saves the Evas and pilots and/or defeats the Angel(s).UltraBlackPilot wrote:Why the hell give it a mind of its own
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UltraBlackPilot wrote:NemZ wrote:Such as... ?
If Jet Alone hadn't been messed with it might have worked, or at least would have made the greatest explosive device ever, that huge ass rifle they used to kill Ramiel with all of japans power but automated, ACTUAL ROBOTS, Orbital Satellite Strikes, Eva instead of piloted with souls and humans why not just have made AI's like the dummy plug for them in the first place, and Chuck Norris.
No, it wouldn't. The ability of the Eva's resident soul to project its pilot's AT Field is the only thing that made it effective against the Angels. Without that, the Jet Alone would have had just as much success as all the missiles and other conventional weaponry deployed against, for example, Sachiel at the start of the first episode.
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