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Postby AuraTwilight » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:12 pm

Joseph the PRPD wrote:Because Toji is a bad ass who doesn't play by the rules.


Which makes him hot, and thus moe.

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Postby VoidEater » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:23 pm

It is not explicated in the series (I've looked for specific references in one of my more recent viewings of the series). It seems non-expositional (nonverbal) communication of character.

It is likely showing Toji's lack of identification as "one of the masses", symbol for toughness and rebellion and outward focus, and to identify him as teh Jock.
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:30 pm

Joseph the PRPD wrote:Because Toji is a bad ass who doesn't play by the rules.

If that were the case, in Japan's school system, he would spend a lot more time than is shown in the series (READ: NONE) holding buckets of water outside the classroom. Or perhaps the Japanese of the future are big wussies and let their students do as they please. If that were the case, how come Toji is the only student out of uniform? Even the newcomers Shinji and Asuka manged to get with the program from day one.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:24 pm

It's because black is slimming. Shinji's pretty cherubic in some episodes of NGE. I can't recall that with Touji.

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Postby Monk Ed » Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:54 pm

AuraTwilight wrote:Which makes him hot, and thus moe.

That pic of him taking it off, revealing a tank top underneath, and that look in his eye... 100% sex-a machine-a.
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Postby MugwumpHasNoLiver » Tue Aug 04, 2009 1:06 am

Monk Ed wrote:That pic of him taking it off, revealing a tank top underneath, and that look in his eye... 100% sex-a machine-a.


Glad I'm not the only one who thought so. :chuckles:
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:45 am

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Postby VoidEater » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:14 pm

The Eva Monkey wrote:Or perhaps the Japanese of the future are big wussies and let their students do as they please.


I suspect it's soomething along the lines of expected behavior versus allowed behavior. If so, Toji knows where the "real" line (where the authorities will take action) is and makes a statement outside of "polite" norms.
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Postby Monk Ed » Tue Aug 04, 2009 6:50 pm

The Eva Monkey wrote:Or perhaps the Japanese of the future are big wussies and let their students do as they please.

That is the most likely. I've read an article on Japanese suicide culture, in Atlantic Monthly, and for part of it they interviewed Hideaki Anno. He comments with disdain that there are no adults left in Japan; it's just a country of children, in his eyes, and it has been ever since its spirit was crushed in World War 2. Grown men do things like read hentai manga on a public train, he explains. The Japan of NGE is this in an even more exaggerated form, where the people have lost hope in any kind of better tomorrow and let themselves fall into childish depravity and irresponsible behavior. That's why "anywhere can be heaven if you have the will to live" is supposed to resonate even more profoundly with the Japanese audience.
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Postby I Accidentally Dracula » Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:39 pm

He's secretly a Power Ranger.

Remember how their street clothes always matched their Zord colors?
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Thu Aug 06, 2009 2:55 pm

I Accidentally Dracula wrote:He's secretly a Power Ranger.

Remember how their street clothes always matched their Zord colors?

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Postby The Eva Monkey » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:48 pm

It's been 6 months, I think I will give this topic a bump, maybe someone has thought about this once or more since this thread was active, and perhaps some newcomers would enjoy scratching their heads about this detail I've been curious about for years.
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Postby NemZ » Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:58 pm

The 'because badass' is the only answer I can think of. Yes he should be getting in trouble for it, but oh well.
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Postby planet news » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:10 am

Did they not give Rei red eyes because she lacked further distinguishing characteristics?

Thus jacket.
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Postby ran1 » Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:18 am

Toji has the kind of attitude where he likes to bring attention to himself by being boorish and a "tough guy". The jacket, signifying him as different, amplifies this persona.

Or, like in my high school, uniforms are usually strictly enforced (sport coats, collared shirts, khakis, etc.) but the various team captains get to wear their varsity jackets the day that they have a big game. Its probably something like that.
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Postby Seph » Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:59 pm

Aren't Japanese students allowed to wear either their ordinary uniform or their gym uniform? If so, he simply prefers his gym uniform.

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Postby Merridian » Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:06 pm

^track suit =/= gym uniform

I'd say it's simply used to visually offset him from Kensuke's geekishness. Nothing says "pubescent jock rebel James Dean badass" like a jacket, much less a track suit. A full (red! :D) leather jacket would have been a bit too much, though. Considering it's often paired with Kensuke's (and Shinji's) button down boring white shirt & black slacks, I'd say it's primarily used to further embellish his character.

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Postby Baz » Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:34 am

The basketball team's uniform and the school gym uniform are two different things. Toji probably just likes wearing his team uniform all the time. As for the lack of the team name or emblems on the suit, they are probably just not shown due to the extra animation costs that would be required.
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Postby Rodeo » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:25 pm

The Eva Monkey wrote:If that were the case, in Japan's school system, he would spend a lot more time than is shown in the series (READ: NONE) holding buckets of water outside the classroom. Or perhaps the Japanese of the future are big wussies and let their students do as they please. If that were the case, how come Toji is the only student out of uniform? Even the newcomers Shinji and Asuka manged to get with the program from day one.


Their homeroom teacher doesn't even notice that the entire class goes hoopla over Shinji in episode 3 while he's in the middle of teaching made-up history. They might be trying to tell us that the school isn't in the best of conditions.
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Mon Feb 15, 2010 12:32 pm

Baz wrote:The basketball team's uniform and the school gym uniform are two different things. Toji probably just likes wearing his team uniform all the time. As for the lack of the team name or emblems on the suit, they are probably just not shown due to the extra animation costs that would be required.

That's probably the case, I can corroborate that wearing activity/sports uniforms (school spirit) is an acceptable alternate to the standard uniform.

I guess the outfit signifies the obvious, he's the token jock.

I still think it's pretty awesome that the token jock hangs out with the token nerd. What a pair.
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