[LAEM] PG-13 or R?

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[LAEM] PG-13 or R?

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Postby Guyver Spawn » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:42 pm

I'm not 100% sure if someone did this topic before but do you want a LAEM to be PG-13 or R? I want it to be Rated R since Rated R series that become PG-13 have been know to be crap like Spawn, AVP, and Mortal Kombat. I would not mind if it PG-13 since a Hard PG-13 rating might work since Taken was PG-13, and the movie feel like a R rated movie.
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:49 pm

They will make it PG13. The vast majority of successful film franchises are PG13 or under. It's a numbers game. The only franchise I can think of offhand that are R and highly successful is the Matrix Trilogy. It did exceptionally well for a R rated franchise.

I would put money on it being PG13.
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Postby Captain_Morgan » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:16 pm

Look at TDK.

PG-13

Super dark

Super awesome

Considering that it is a Sci-Fi movie, all the violence can be written off as "intense sci-fi action" (or whatever the MPAA uses) even if there is an abundance of blood. This would help keep it from getting an R rating.

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:28 pm

PG-13. These films to do live action would cost somewhere in the region of $200 million. (Almost double when you include the marketing). R's unrealistic.

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Postby Guyver Spawn » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:05 pm

If they do more then one movie then make the first one PG-13 then the sequels R rated. The only issue I would have a PG-13 rating is that they stuff for kids like "How to read books" and lame action figures like T4 did (When the first three movies where rated R).
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:27 pm

It's not like Evangelion (even with EOE) hasn't done that already. The merchandise for that franchise is insane.

Don't put your hopes on R rating. To achieve an R Eva would have to be done on the cheap. Besides, The Dark Knight proved just how lenient a PG-13 is these days. That movie was incredibly dark and violent and all it needed to do to avoid an R was keep out the F bombs and unnecessary gore.

Not that I condone a Live Action Eva mind you.

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Postby backseatjesus » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:36 pm

Pg-13 in Theater and Unrated at home.

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Postby Guyver Spawn » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:38 pm

It's not like Evangelion (even with EOE) hasn't done that already.


Not for kids that is? Movies with Robots, Superheros, and anything that you will see in a summer blockbuster movie has merchandise for kids under 12. I'm fine with a PG-13 rating if it done like Taken or The Dark Knight.

Eva happy meal toys would make me want to throw up if they do it.
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Postby scarmullet » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:50 pm

I would prefer the film to be R because that way the director could do what he or she wanted as long as its within the universe of Evangelion.

Remember Gremlins? People thought it would be a cute family film, they thought wrong. I fear the same thing could happen with Evangelion if it got a PG-13 rating.
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Postby backseatjesus » Sat Jun 27, 2009 8:54 pm

Guyver Spawn wrote:
It's not like Evangelion (even with EOE) hasn't done that already.

Eva happy meal toys would make me want to throw up if they do it.

You mean that hasn't happened in Japan yet?

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Postby NAveryW » Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:08 pm

This again? I... um... I DON'T WANNA DIG UP THE OLD THREADS! Someone else do it!

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Postby Legendary » Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:54 pm

Hmm... the ratings for the episodes start out TV-14, I'm pretty sure, so the first movie at least would be PG-13. Later it does become TV-M, of course, so it's entirely possible the final movie could be rated R, but there's no reason for it to start out that way.

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Postby Sachi » Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:44 pm

Of course I would prefer an R rating, but PG-13 is probably gonna be the case. Although, I do kinda like the idea of it starting off as PG-13, and the following movies can be R.
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Postby Timstuff » Sun Jun 28, 2009 1:17 am

I have no doubt that it will be PG-13. PG-13 means it will reach the largest audience, and honestly it wouldn't be difficult for a good screenwriter to make a PG-13 evangelion movie trilogy that doesn't cross into R-rated territory. There's probably going to be a lot of changes anyway, so it's not like it'd be difficult for them to keep things clean enough for a PG-13 (especially since PG-13 is quite flexible nowadays).

Also, the merchandising for this movie is going to be huge, just like it has always been for the anime in Japan. We're talking games, action figures, T-shirts, junk food-- the whole shebang. Pragmatically speaking, there's a ton of money to be made, but they'd be cutting themselves awfully short if they went with an R-rating.
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Postby Guyver Spawn » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:59 pm

backseatjesus wrote:
Guyver Spawn wrote:
It's not like Evangelion (even with EOE) hasn't done that already.

Eva happy meal toys would make me want to throw up if they do it.

You mean that hasn't happened in Japan yet?


They made happy meal toys for kids in Japan? :huh:

I'm fine with merchandising as long they make stuff for kids like a saturday morning cartoon or coloring books. R ratings do help keeping out annoying kids out like that one where I saw a couple pushing a stroller into the theater when I saw AVPR back in 2007.

This again? I... um... I DON'T WANNA DIG UP THE OLD THREADS! Someone else do it!


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Postby Mr. Tines » Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:57 am

Guyver Spawn wrote:They made happy meal toys for kids in Japan? :huh:
Well, there were figures with burger meals at the Rebuild 2.0 opening day.
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Postby Ornette » Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:06 am

At Lotteria. After the movie we went to one to get the Rei figure, was already sold out.
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Postby SeanTucker » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:30 pm

Personally I say make it as hard of an R as humanly possible.

First off: EVA and Angel designs. I'm all for faithfulness to the anime/manga, but the original designs will seem a bit underwhelming in live-action, especially the Angels. If they go for a PG-13, the "Lovecraftian horror nightmare fuel" aspect of them will be significantly reduced in the inevitable redesign, and frankly it'll look like shit. However, if they go for an R, WETA Workshop (assuming they're still attached) can go totally batfuck crazy with the designs and make them look like things out of H.R. Giger's nightmares, which'll be fucking awesome.

Second off: symbolism. If they go for a PG-13, all the Freudian psychology and religious symbols will go straight out the window, which will be very bad. However, if they go for an R, that'll probably stay in because an R-rated movie's audience can be expected to have some general knowledge of that.

Third off: battles. Remember how in EVA-01 vs Sachiel, EVA-01 gets stabbed in the eye and a fountain of blood sprays out? That's not going to stay in with a PG-13. You'll be lucky if you get something like the Giant Robot Week version of that episode, and they may just not show it period. With an R, however, they can make the fights incredibly brutal, possibly to the point of being hard to watch... which'll make dummyplug vs. EVA-03 much better, as that's supposed to be disturbing.

Fourth off: EoE. Unless they decay it a ton, it's not PG-13 level at all. At ALL. Asuka's death? Either severely trimmed or gone completely. Most of the JSSDF rampaging in NERV HQ? Not gonna happen, better luck next time. People turning into Tang? Maybe if the MPAA's in a good mood. Pretty much the entire second half? No. Just no.

If the movie's not R, I'm not going to see it. Period.
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Postby snowballreborn » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:58 pm

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Postby Sammaeloo » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:00 am

So I guess a film with Gendo in it gets a film an instant R?
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