Evangelion 3.0 Speculation [1]

Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition"). The final instalment made its debut in Japan on March 8, 2021.

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Postby ScottAsher » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:45 pm

View Original PostMerkaba wrote:Also, why all the hate for Geass on this forum? It had a plot (a prince seeking to overthrow the empire his father built in order to unite the world and offer all humans peace; a great plot, in my mind) and tons character development (almost every character ended up making decisions that conflicted with their morals from the beginning of the series).


Because it's cool to hate on popular things.

Also, on the topic of character development and that one guys "cool fights" comment, I don't get why you guys are flipping shit and freaking out about Evangelion 3.0 not having enough time to develop characters. Honestly it's tiring going on this forum and reading "THIS MOVIE'S GONNA BE BAD BECAUSE MARI'S IN IT AND SHE'S UNDERDEVELOPED BLAH BLAH BLAH." You've only seen what, 10 minutes of her? Of course she's 'underdeveloped.' She hasn't gotten any screentime. You have no idea what she's going to really be like, don't you guys realize we haven't seen her outside of a fight scene? You see Asuka in her fight scenes and think "wow she's so confident and cool" then you see her laying in bed talking to a puppet and think "wow she's so fucked up."

Seriously give the damn movie a chance to come out before saying it's bad and the characters aren't going to be developed. Shinji and Rei have both changed a lot since the beginning of 1.0, and Asuka changes a lot with the (admittedly small) screentime she gets in 2.0. Same with Misato, even. They all develop.

Also, there's still 4.0 and we don't know if it's all gonna come tumbling down or if there's going to be a new ending, (Which I'm willing to bet there will be a new one) so you need to count in that for character development, too.

Anyway, on the topic of the plot of the movie, am I the only one that's expecting MarixAsuka to become canon? I can seriously see it happening, with there being a friendly rivalry, then they get into a screaming match that ends in an angry make-out session.

They did say this one would split the fanbase. So I'm willing to bet either ShinjixKaworu (More likely) or MarixAsuka becomes canon.

(I don't support the ReixShinji ship so I'm not saying anything there.)

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Postby Mr. Tines » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:29 am

1) Code Geass was full of "LOL Sunrise", Pizza Hut sponsorship, and a change in tmeslot between seasons that caused a sudden change of direction.

2) As for MxA -- they're not magical girls, so the Japanese bias against lesbians will out.
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Postby Brainman » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:49 am

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2.) Maybe that's what will be such a "splitting" issue (I'll just let you deal with that).
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Postby Alaska Slim » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:45 am

View Original PostMerkaba wrote:Also, why all the hate for Geass on this forum?

It's CLAMP trying to be edgy, do you need another reason?

Their sweet spot is creating effigies of exaggerated human emotions and placing them in fantasy or otherwise surreal settings. Those however do not mix with attempts to have a serious plot. A similar concoction in the gaming world is known as Final Fantasy VIII-X2.

There is though, one reason to watch that I'll grant you. It's the same for why I don't blame myself anymore for watching Yu-Gi-Oh!

@MxA: ...I consider it a blessing that I was not fiendish nor perverted enough to imagine this before now. Then again, I didn't perceive "Gay" in Shinji and Kawrou's relationship until I stumbled upon Fandumb, so hey, I could be dense. BP

To count against it, if there was an intention for a relationship to develop, then they should have interacted at some point in 2.0. Instead, all of her interactions have been with Shinji, implying she will impact him somehow in the future. Add to this the CRC talk of creators doing away with any ideas of a Asuka and Mari prior-acquaintance, and the supposed rivalry resulting in a triangle, both with Shinji, and with Unit-02.
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Postby bobbyfischer's ghost » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:52 am

View Original PostAlaska Slim wrote:
There is though, one reason

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View Original PostScottAsher wrote: am I the only one that's expecting MarixAsuka to become canon?

Not very likely unless Asuka smells of LCL 24/7.
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Postby TheTuna » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:23 am

View Original PostScottAsher wrote:Anyway, on the topic of the plot of the movie, am I the only one that's expecting MarixAsuka to become canon? I can seriously see it happening, with there being a friendly rivalry, then they get into a screaming match that ends in an angry make-out session.


I'm not expecting it, not in a million years, but that would be both hilarious and amazing.

I really do hope that we get to see some Mari/Asuka combat sequences. I can't imagine them being anything but fun as hell to watch battling together.

Also, Asuka's inevitable murder attempt in revenge for Mari getting Unit-02 beat to hell should be entertaining.

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Postby Xard » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:13 am

View Original PostAlaska Slim wrote:It's CLAMP trying to be edgy, do you need another reason?


You just went full retard. CLAMP did character designs, that's it. You might as well claim Mouryou no Hako is CLAMP "trying to be edgy"

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Postby Warren Peace » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:20 am

As long as we're firing in random directions: weren't the Eden of the East movies a tremendous disappointment? No way Q could be worse than those. Awful. Just awful.

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Postby cd603 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:59 am

View Original PostWarren Peace wrote:As long as we're firing in random directions: weren't the Eden of the East movies a tremendous disappointment? No way Q could be worse than those. Awful. Just awful.

Actually that whole show is what it is. The movies didn't bring it down or anything, but it also doesn't improve much either.
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Postby StratoSakuya...AF » Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:48 pm

View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:2) As for MxA -- they're not magical girls, so the Japanese bias against lesbians will out.


Didn't Asuka befriended a blonde with a pink boomstick when she was younger?
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Postby simon » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:20 pm

View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:1) Code Geass was full of "LOL Sunrise", Pizza Hut sponsorship, and a change in tmeslot between seasons that caused a sudden change of direction.



and the most amazing male character every portrayed in a movie. And that makes it an amazing anime. Period.
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Postby Removal » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:03 pm

Any thoughts on possible Mari and Shinji interaction? I think 2.0's parachute scene was a bit of a prelude to more expanded dialogue exchange later.
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Postby Bagheera » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:12 pm

View Original PostRemoval wrote:Any thoughts on possible Mari and Shinji interaction? I think 2.0's parachute scene was a bit of a prelude to more expanded dialogue exchange later.


There didn't seem to be any chemistry whatsoever between them in the show, but given the real-life inspirations for the characters I can't help but think their interactions will be key in Q and Final.

And simon, I think there is perhaps no better way to sum up why people hate CG than what you wrote right there. Nothing turns people off a show like a fanbase that thinks it's the best thing ever.
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Postby bobbyfischer's ghost » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:24 pm

View Original PostBagheera wrote: I can't help but think their interactions will be key in Q and Final.


Hopefully it's more than just a short pep talk.
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Postby Bagheera » Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:39 pm

View Original Postbobbyfischer's ghost wrote:Hopefully it's more than just a short pep talk.


Well, she's supposed to destroy Eva, right? I can think of two ways to do that: the first is to kill Shinji, while the second is to get him laid. Since the first is unlikely . . . :shrug:

Not that getting laid will necessarily fix one's social problems, mind; I'm mainly using that as shorthand for "learns to accept himself and others, grows up, and hooks up happily with a willing partner." It's a lot more complex than that, of course, but that's nevertheless a giant step down the right track, as Anno himself discovered with [s]Mari[/s] his wife.
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Postby bobbyfischer's ghost » Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:03 pm

Yeah cutting Shinji's dependance on Eva is key and what better way than to make friends outside of Eva.
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Postby Clover » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:24 pm

View Original PostBagheera wrote:Well, she's supposed to destroy Eva, right? I can think of two ways to do that: the first is to kill Shinji, while the second is to get him laid. Since the first is unlikely . . . :shrug:

She can't kill Shinji. She can kill Kaworu.
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Postby bobbyfischer's ghost » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:36 pm

View Original PostClover wrote:She can't kill Shinji. She can kill Kaworu.
If that didn't split the fanbase, nothing would.

Considering she had trouble with the previous angel that seems highly unlikely.

It's probably going to be Shinji that kills Kaworu again .
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Postby TheTuna » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:41 pm

Given the nature of the comment "destroy Eva", I can't help but wonder if she'll be the pilot of whatever the "big bad" Eva ends up being (Unit-08?)

I'd prefer she not be a villain, but I'm sure she could work quite well as one.

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Postby Clover » Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:42 pm

View Original Postbobbyfischer's ghost wrote:Considering she had trouble with the previous angel that seems highly unlikely.

It's probably going to be Shinji that kills Kaworu again .

Kaworu was the easiest Angel. Unless he's in the Mark 6 or actually trying to defend himself, you could kill him on foot. I wouldn't compare Tabris to fucking ZERUEL any day.


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