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Michael Bay is quitting Transformers (and all action movies)

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Postby NAveryW » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:37 pm

Says so right myah.

Michael Bay wrote:It's easy to go shoot an art movie in a winery in the South of France. But people have no idea how hard it is to create something like Transformers. They (the critics) review me before they've even seen the movie.

So does this mean he's going back to directing softcore porn?
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:53 pm

I'll believe it when I see it.

I think Michael Bay is having one of those self identity battles (yes even he has them...but they mostly feature Linkin Park songs and Baysplosions).

I'd say looking at his work you can see him struggling with trying to identify himself as a filmmaker.

I remember reading his thoughts and views on why he took "Pearl Harbor". He honestly felt like that film was going to take him into the stratosphere of "Serious Filmmakers". He talked how it really dealt with serious issues of love and regret. And that may have been his initiative going in but the film itself is a joke except for the Explosions. Which did rock.

Then after Bad Boys 2 he went off and did The Island and it was the same thing. He honestly felt like he was making a serious science fiction film. One that dealt with IDEAS first. He even pointed out he was casting actors known for acting. (Note, he cast Scarlett Johansson in the film at the time she was still only known for "Lost in Translation" and everyone believed she was the next great versatile actress). The film had a good core concept but it becomes a series of explosions.

I think he found his niche with Transformers. Films that from the get go are stupid and shallow exercises in commercialism. The film's genesis is a toy line. The Transformer films ARE bad but they're great DUMB BAD. And they've been getting him the best reviews of his career....I think.

Bay may leave Transformers. He strikes me as having a short attention span and he could be through with the series (that he was not a fan of to begin with). Plus all signs are pointing at the studio wanting to release a third film in 2011, which would mean Bay would have to start production on Transformers 3 like TOMORROW.

But leaving action films? I'll believe it when I see it. If he wants to leave action films he's gonna have to give himself a super small budget so he can't afford explosions and black hawk helicopters that can be silhouetted by the sun. And I don't see that happening.

If anything he'll sign on to a small budget idea film and then make it explode into a $150 million production.

Would be a shame if he left Transformers though. Those films are wonderfully retarded. You can watch them and know they're horrible but still have a blast.

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Postby BattleMonkey » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:09 pm

He said he wants to try something else, not leave action films entirely. I doubt he would quit on explosions permanently.

As for his comments on making a movie like Tranformers, it's true in a sense of the sheer incredible scope of technical work that goes into making these movies. The movie may be dumb or whatever, but to make these crazy action flicks takes a lot of work.

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Postby The Eva Monkey » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:31 pm

Gendo'sPapa wrote:I think Michael Bay is having one of those self identity battles.

I think Michael Bay is going "BOO FUCKING HOO" in a lame douchebag attempt to get some undeserved sympathy.

He doesn't seem to understand that it's not the action/explosion stuff it his films... It's the Mountain Dew soda machine transforming into a robot and shooting soda can retarded middle school shit he puts into his movies.

His movies are awesomely shitty. There's a solid half hour in Transformers that's actually really enjoyable, but that doesn't make up for the fact that it's bookended by passively obnoxious shit on a shingle. Fuck Michael Bay. He should pull a scrooge mcduck, fill a pool full of money and just swim in it every day. He's the only director that deserve my ire more than George Lucas, and you know how much ire I have for him!

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:35 pm

I personally never knew of the ire.

BUT for me, as long as Michael Bay keeps making films that from the get go are retarded (live action Transformers was never going to be than some nerds wet dream) than I'm fine with what he does.

Though he is undoubtable an asshole. Each film he gets costs enough money to feed the poorer nations in Africa for a year.

-For me, the only part of Transformers 1 that really worked was the Scorpion Robot. Too bad he ruined it by having the lead White Marine call for help and we had to sit through another "Innocent Bay racial stereotype" with the Indian telemarketer.

Seriously, my biggest complaint with the first Transformers film is how undeniably racist the film is.

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Postby NemZ » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:46 pm

My biggest complaint is that it makes no sense. Everyone found the glasses on ebay, and are apparently super awesome hackers... so why didn't they just bid on the things and skip all this bullshit?

Nearly every human in the movie I was hoping would die just so I wouldn't have to listen to them yammering away and also so the autobots could quit embarrassing themselves in almost every scene that wasn't a fight.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:23 pm

Could create a new topic for this but I'm figuring this could become the "DUMB ACTION FILMMAKERS" thread.

The only filmmaker who out retards Michael Bay in big stupid, oh my freaking god this is retarded, spectacle is American hating Roland Emmerich (the secret Nazi Sympathizer has thankfully destroyed the U.S. in at least a half dozen films) comes through with what looks to be, quote Comic Book Guy, the-most-retarded-film-EVER.

Bask in the stupidity that is Emmerich:

http://209.73.191.234/s1snfs06r01/001/yahoomovies/15/87696384.mov?StreamID=87696384&pl_auth=002f6f23540398145bc3801de18fa882&ht=120&b=415nul14prkpr4a3a8f82&sdm=web

I look forward to how South Park will try to top this film in moronic parody.

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Postby Guyver Spawn » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:50 pm

This is too bad since I was hoping he would do another movie if the second movie does well. Not to mention like a few of his movies and he is much better then Roland Emmerich IMO.
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:56 pm

Guyver Spawn wrote:This is too bad since I was hoping he would do another movie if the second movie does well. Not to mention like a few of his movies and he is much better then Roland Emmerich IMO.

At last Emmerich can claim he made Stargate, which is one of the best sci-fi action films in recent history (in my opinion).

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Postby Guyver Spawn » Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:03 pm

I did like some of Roland movies like IPD and The Patriot but Universal Soldier, Godzilla 1998 and 10,000 BC where awful. While Bay is not the same level of Kubrick but I found his movies fun to watch if you don't take them seriously like The Rock and Bad Boys 2.
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Postby NAveryW » Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:31 pm

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Guyver Spawn wrote:This is too bad since I was hoping he would do another movie if the second movie does well. Not to mention like a few of his movies and he is much better then Roland Emmerich IMO.

At last Emmerich can claim he made Stargate, which is one of the best sci-fi action films in recent history (in my opinion).
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Postby The Bastard King » Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:39 pm

BUT WHERE WILL WE GET OUR EXPLOSIONS?
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Postby GAP » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:09 pm

Well, there is always....I got nothing.
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Postby Timstuff » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:00 am

Bay repsonds.

Seriously though, I should have questioned this report's authenticity when they said Bay wants to make a movie with no explosions. I mean, that'd be like a Don Bluth movie without a Big Lipped Alligator Moment.
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Postby THE Hal E. Burton 9000 » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:13 am

I have mixed feelings about Bay

Bad Boys is OK, tries too hard to be the black version of Lethal Weapon, Will Smith works better in MiB

The Rock is a solid action flick, not the first Die Hard, but not the crap Steven Seagal has attached himself to for the last decade or so

I would have loved Armageddon if it hadn't decided to take itself seriously about a hour or so in

Pearl Harbor tried way too hard to be a clone of Titanic with the damn love story and the teen heart-throbs and deservingly paid the price for it

Bay had no business making a movie like The Island with his style of film-making, a film like that should have been in the hands of someone like Ridley Scott

Transformers had its fine moments, but it was about 40 minutes too long and tried and failed to have it both ways in keeping the fanboys happy and appealing to a bigger audience

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Postby Guyver Spawn » Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:40 am

It looks like Micheal Bay on his forum said that he is not giving up on the series yet. I don't know even why their is a forum based on his movies and that forum has over 1,000 post.

I did enjoy Transformers even though they ruin the stroy but I enjoy The Rock, Armageddon and Bad Boys. I hated Pearl Harbor and The Island since Peral Harbor was borning and it failed to be at the same level of Titanic.
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Postby PuppetChaos » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:52 am

I like Micheal Bay for what he is: A guy who makes movies about things that explode. Not every film has to be DEEP, and neither does every filmmaker. (and yes, I'd imagine a blockbuster is pretty damn hard to make)

As for him quitting because of critics, wtf, dude, stuff the critics. The revenue from millions of people buying tickets to his films is his justification.

Also, two cents on the Transformers film: It's a movie based on a 80's cartoon designed to sell as many toys to as many children as possible. Plus, we got Transformers Animated out of it.
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Postby Timstuff » Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:13 am

Exactly. Michael Bay sets out to make big, fun, brain-lite movies, and he is very good at it. If you go into a Michael Bay movie expecting it to be deep and thought provoking, then of course you'll be disappointed, because you are having unrealistic expectations.
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Postby BrikHaus » Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:46 pm

Timstuff wrote:Exactly. Michael Bay sets out to make big, fun, brain-lite movies, and he is very good at it. If you go into a Michael Bay movie expecting it to be deep and thought provoking, then of course you'll be disappointed, because you are having unrealistic expectations.

I just expect a movie to be coherent, and Mr. Bay's films rarely live up to that expectation.
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Postby chee » Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:34 pm

BrikHaus wrote:I just expect a movie to be interesting, and Mr. Bay's films rarely live up to that expectation.


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