Characters you dislike the most?

[TehDonutKing]

\I didn't say that. Being a slut is not equivalent to enjoying sex.

Then what is it?

[Lavinius]

Then what is it?

This.
I intended the first usage, but the third, which I did not know of, also applies to her.

[Dream]

A bit saddened by the apparently common dislike of Death Note's Misa... While it's true she wasn't exactly a mastermind and was a rather noisy person, her only crime is being a very innocent/kind/dedicated and naive person in a world full of cynical or sociopathic masterminds (or "masterminds" depending on how you take the events of the series i guess) Her honesty of spirit and the fact she stuck by Light and still loved him even with the way he treated her made her one of the most tragic and likeable characters for me (but i have to admit that it was kind of stupid to stick by Light so much, after a point she can't not have realized he only cared about himself) Her fate at the ending plus her backstory only make her a more sympathetic and tragic character for me.

Also, while kind of annoying, she was rather cute :P

[Lavinius]

A bit saddened by the apparently common dislike of Death Note's Misa... While it's true she wasn't exactly a mastermind and was a rather noisy person, her only crime is being a very innocent/kind/dedicated and naive person in a world full of cynical or sociopathic masterminds (or "masterminds" depending on how you take the events of the series i guess) Her honesty of spirit and the fact she stuck by Light and still loved him even with the way he treated her made her one of the most tragic and likeable characters for me (but i have to admit that it was kind of stupid to stick by Light so much, after a point she can't not have realized he only cared about himself) Her fate at the ending plus her backstory only make her a more sympathetic and tragic character for me.

Also, while kind of annoying, she was rather cute :P

All too true, which is why I didn't list her.

[TehDonutKing]

This.
I intended the first usage, but the third, which I did not know of, also applies to her.

Once again, what's wrong with enjoying sex?

[Lavinius]

Once again, what's wrong with enjoying sex?

If I called an obese man a glutton, would you ask what I thought was wrong with enjoying food?

[A.T. Fish]

A bit saddened by the apparently common dislike of Death Note's Misa... While it's true she wasn't exactly a mastermind and was a rather noisy person, her only crime is being a very innocent/kind/dedicated and naive person in a world full of cynical or sociopathic masterminds

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She was sociopathic too, she killed people just to meet Kira and was even less selective about it. She also did anything Light told her too, including killing a lot of people, and she did it without questioning the morality of what she was doing, playing the good old role of the stupidly submissive girl with a macabre twist that makes it even more despicable.

[TehDonutKing]

If I called an obese man a glutton, would you ask what I thought was wrong with enjoying food?

No. If you called someone who treats women as sex objects lustful, that would be okay. Calling someone who has multiple sexual partners a slut betrays your lack of knowledge of evolution.

[Lavinius]

No. If you called someone who treats women as sex objects lustful, that would be okay. Calling someone who has multiple sexual partners a slut betrays your lack of knowledge of evolution.

First of all, multiple sexual partners is unneccesary for the survival or advancement of the species. So unless you endorse mass selective breeding of humans (which, while not ignoble, is energy far better spent on technological evolution) the evolutionary argument is irrelevant.
And a slut or lustful man, in my view, does not neccesarily have multiple partners, though they almost always do. It is a matter of their overinterest and obsession with the activity.

Ah, I forgot about the bit where Misa killed the innocents. That is inexcusable.

[TehDonutKing]

Look at chimps and bonobos, humans closest living relatives. You know why girls moan and have multiple orgasms? The multiple orgasms are to reward multiple sex partners, while the moans are to invite other males. Humans are meant to be polyamorous.

[Lavinius]

Look at chimps and bonobos, humans closest living relatives. You know why girls moan and have multiple orgasms? The multiple orgasms are to reward multiple sex partners, while the moans are to invite other males. Humans are meant to be polyamorous.

Lol. Someone hasn't thought about the basis of their ethical system. Everyone does it; what a great argument. Coupled with the fact that I don't see you endorsing a return to any other aspects of the life of another ape...

Meant? By whom? On what authority? Evolution is just a way that chaotic particles tend to order themselves.

[TehDonutKing]

How is one partner more "ethical?" If everyone's okay with it, it doesn't hurt anyone. Also, quit your red herring fallacies.

[Xard]

Oh just let it go you two, I don't want to see another Alleman vs rest of the forum on Misato's sluttyness Mk. II here

[Lavinius]

How is one partner more "ethical?" If everyone's okay with it, it doesn't hurt anyone. Also, quit your red herring fallacies.

I never claimed that it was more ethical (though I think it is in most cases), I simply pointed out that your argument for polyamory was fundamentally flawed.

What fallacies? Please identify them, and note that "appeal to nature" is a fallacy.

[TehDonutKing]

but Xard, this is so much fun!

You pointing out that i don't want us to go back to other apelike mannerisms, and trying to twist a figure of speech against me via asking who meant for humans to have multiple partners. Those are both red herrings. Also, you did say that one partner was more ethical.

Lol. Someone hasn't thought about the basis of their ethical system. .

And yes, i have. If no one is hurt by it, than by Jove, it's ethical.

[Lavinius]

You pointing out that i don't want us to go back to other apelike mannerisms, and trying to twist a figure of speech against me via asking who meant for humans to have multiple partners. Those are both red herrings. Also, you did say that one partner was more ethical.

And yes, i have. If no one is hurt by it, than by Jove, it's ethical.

Well, your argument was that apes do it, which makes it seem as though you think that apes are models of vitrue, or some kind of moral code to follow.
No, if you say something is 'meant' to be, that implies that someone or something decided on it.
I said that have one partner was more ethical after you accused me of doing so.
I was referring to your casual usage of "meant" and the appeal to monkeys.

[TehDonutKing]

I meant that human brains simply are not wired for monogamy, and there is nothing ethically wrong with polygamy, because it hurts no one. Therefore, polyamory is the logical choice.

[Redtophat]

I meant that human brains simply are not wired for monogamy, and there is nothing ethically wrong with polygamy, because it hurts no one. Therefore, polyamory is the logical choice.

Seemed to be true for the people living in Brave New World.

[Bagheera]

*Misato Katsuragi, a dirty, drunk, foolish, and vengeful slut.

. . . who's only slept with one man in her entire life. See how a girl gets a reputation?

[Mr. Tines]

Slut talk goes on /a/, where they are experts on the subject. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter.