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Postby IronEvangelion » Fri Jun 01, 2018 11:15 am

Wow, they're cutting out all of those features and requiring a monthly subscription? It's now an easy pass. If I want to play an online MMO pokemon game, I'll play the one that's truer to the core games, even if it isn't really a pokemon game at all:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cr ... erm=temtem

Seriously, check it out. It looks pretty cool.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Thu Jun 07, 2018 8:15 pm

^ Didn't Sun & Moon remove Gyms though? Maybe Nintendo is going for keeping things "fresh" by changing the status quo with the games. Though if they change too much, it won't feel like Pokemon anymore, will it?
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Postby Princess Asuka » Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:03 pm

I wanna get back into playing Pokemon but I don't know which game I should start with as I haven't played it since I lost My DSI XL and copy of Soul Silver on a school bus in high school. Also, I think Pokemon games should have multiple save files too.
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Postby El Squibbonator » Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:50 pm

There's always Pokemon Go.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:56 am

Pokémon Go is heresy of the highest order. Its the antithesis of everything the games were originally built around, at least that's my opinion on the matter
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Postby El Squibbonator » Thu Jun 28, 2018 9:20 am

And that would be. . .?
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:00 pm

^ Microtransactions are what I'm talking about. You shouldn't be able to buy your way to victory in Pokémon, you have to work for it. So having microtransactions defeats the purpose, especially in an app such as this where the advantage is skewed to those who can afford all the extras. While there are more people interacting with each other, it's no longer on a level playing field.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:12 pm

Speaking of Pokémon Go, it appears that an unknown Pokémon has appeared, confusing everyone. Popular speculation says this is Missingno, or a placeholder Pokémon for when errors occur.
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Postby El Squibbonator » Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:23 pm

Or (and this is a more likely possibility, IMHO) it's a sneak peak at Generation 8. After all, it was mentioned a while back that a new Pokemon would also be appearing in Let's Go Pikachu and Let's Go Eevee.
https://gamerant.com/pokemon-lets-go-pi ... w-pokemon/

I have a hunch this could be that Pokemon.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:29 pm

^ I'm sure it is a sneak peek at Gen 8, like Munchlax being included in Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness as an unplayable character. But it nice to think that for a moment it was Missingno.
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Postby El Squibbonator » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:27 pm

By the way, I have an odd question. So, I've been wondering, what kind of animal is Type Null and Silvally supposed to look like? I always considered the their overall shape to be like some sort of cat, given that their appearance reminds me of the Keythong (a creature sort of like a griffin, but without wings). Not to mention their animations in Refresh seem kind of cat-like.

But I was wondering if anyone had any other thoughts on the matter.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:42 pm

Well, looking at the hind legs, it looks very feline with the leg structure, but I would lean towards it being a liger because of its legendary status and inability to breed. Also, its behavior sounds like that of Liger Zero from Zoids, evolving once friendship is maxed out.
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Postby El Squibbonator » Mon Sep 24, 2018 6:14 pm

Interesting interpretation. I always saw it as a more general gryphon-type monster.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:02 pm

Well, Zoids bias and all. Though I've looked at Liger Zero enough, I'm confident in saying that Type: Null and Silvally are liger based. But I do see the gryphon-like features you're talking about, especially the front legs and tail thing.
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Postby El Squibbonator » Mon Sep 24, 2018 10:37 pm

In all the discussions of what Type:Null and Silvally are supposed to be that I've seen (and believe me, there are a lot) I've never seen that comparison brought up before. The usual conclusion people seem to reach about them is either "wingless griffin" or "weird-ass mixed up Frankenstein thing".

As for the Keythong, which I compared them to earlier, it looks like this: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/nVQJO
See the similarity (well, minus the tail)?
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:46 pm

Well, I guess for legendary Pokemon its natural to lean more towards a mythical creature, because legendary are the mythical creatures of the Pokemon World. Still, I'm glad I came up with a unique view ^_^

And I do see the similarity with the Keythong, though the face was what threw me towards the liger as well.
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Postby EvangelionFan » Sun Sep 30, 2018 4:56 am

View Original PostEl Squibbonator wrote:In all the discussions of what Type:Null and Silvally are supposed to be that I've seen (and believe me, there are a lot) I've never seen that comparison brought up before. The usual conclusion people seem to reach about them is either "wingless griffin" or "weird-ass mixed up Frankenstein thing".


I've actually thought that Type: Null and Silvally might be a homage to the Evangelion units. After all, all of its odd features considered, it's certainly a 'Frankstein's Monster' or 'Chimera' centered around the genetic information of one particular Pokemon by the name of Arceus, the 'Alpha Pokemon' (read: God Pokemon).

In Secret Lab A on the bottom floor of Aether Paradise in Pokemon Sun/Moon and Pokemon Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon, there are several dossiers that contain information about the creation of Silvally and its purpose. In particular, in File #5 it is noted that "Materials for development have been collected from the Canalave Library in the Sinnoh region. Plans are being drawn up for the specifications of the Type change program, known as the RKS system" - Arceus is central to the Sinnoh region mythology in the franchise (it created the legendary Pokemon Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina, among other things; one of the Pokemon anime films goes into more detail on this), and though the anagram 'RKS' isn't given n full it does sound deliberately like 'Arceus' when said aloud. As to its purpose, File #2 describes Silvally as an "Anti-UB Fighting-life form, B (Beast) K (killer)". A 'UB' here is short for Ultra Beast - strange and unknown beings from another dimension known as 'Ultra Space' which are eventually identified as Pokemon. In my opinion, Silvally's purpose - to battle the otherworldly Ultra Beasts in order to protect Alola and the Aether Paradise - is analogous to the Evangelion's purpose of battling the strange and aggressive Angels in order to protect Tokyo-3 and NERV.

And the similarities between Silvally and Evangelion units keep going. File #7 states that "incubation of the bio-frame is underway" and File #11 states that "Dummy test of the RKS System program has been completed" (italics mine) and "The transplantation of the RKS System program to the models is underway". This sounds less like someone stitching together a monster in a shed than it it does a group of scientists carefully and methodically engineering a bio-mechanical weapon from the genetic material of a living god. It goes further - File #18 notes the completion of the production of three models (identified as 'serial number' 01, 02, and 03) and adds that "All three models rejected the RKS System upon initialization during testing. Shortly after these initialization errors, all three models of Type: Full went berserk" (italics mine).

And, lastly, File #44 states "Models have been fitted with control masks to mitigate the effects of their rejection of the RKS system. Due to the implementation of these control masks, our RKS System initialization tests have failed." For those who haven't played the games, this is why the Pokemon called Type: Null has a mask, and why, when it masters itself through the tutelage of an able trainer, it shatters that mask - as it does in the anime - and it is recognized as a reformed monster, 'Silvally'. As an aside, its trainer is now capable of utilizing its RKS System, which allows it to assume any one of the eighteen Pokemon types from Fire to Ice, Bug to Rock, and so on.

Obviously this is all opinion, though I should stress that the similarities between Type:Null/Silvally and the Evangelion units have been apparent to me since I first played through Pokemon Sun version near the end of 2016. It's stuck with me since then, and occasionally I've thought about mention it here, however, after seeing some of the posts above, I thought this a good time to do so. I suppose I've been a bit long-winded about it but I hope enough of what I've written is clear so that the similarities are apparent for others.
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