Is Evangelion Flawed?

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Is Evangelion Flawed?

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Postby Ornette » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:08 pm

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Postby The Eva Monkey [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:08 pm

This is a simple little poll to gauge the opinion of members of this forum.

Is Evangelion flawed?

In essence, the notion exists that Evangelion is an extremely well thought out creation, without flaws or errors, and that what appears to be error is in actuality very intentional on the part of the production, with the primary sources presenting all the critical information necessary to explain the truth and reality of the series.

The dissenting opinion is that Evangelion, like any other creative work, is limited to the boundaries of the human mind, something that is intrinsically flawed, regardless of how few or many minds are put towards the process. While indeed a work of genius, Evangelion suffers from the same ills of any other creative works, such as continuity errors, bloopers, and production oversights.

Please avoid using this thread as a means of personal attack. You may state your opinion if you like, but please keep it as civil as possible to avoid possible action by moderators.

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 00:28 GMT

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Postby AsukaxSohryux [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:08 pm

Evangelion has flaws, some intentional others not so. These flaws tend to become a nuisance then at times creates a cumbersome conversation.

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 00:31 GMT

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Postby Leader Desslock [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:08 pm

I don't know of a single unflawed production - live action, animated or otherwise. Nobody's perfect. Some people just make fewer mistakes than others.

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Postby The Eva Monkey [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:09 pm

AsukaxSohryux wrote:Evangelion has flaws, some intentional others not so.
Curious.

When I think of flaws, I think of them as unintentional, unless someone was maliciously attempting to flaw something.

Can you provide an example of an intentional flaw in Evangelion? And also, a possible reason why that intentional flaw was made?

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 00:37 GMT

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Postby Seele08 [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:09 pm

Sometimes in literature, an author will make what is called an "anomaly" making a character a little OOC to provide depth or intrigue, Hamlet is well known for this device.
Also, whether or not his is relevant. Both the Amish and Navajo cultures believe in adding in a flaw to their art so as not to offend their dieties. Its kind of interesting really. BTW where I live its common to see Amish buggies.....and wait for them in traffic.

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Postby Solid-Snake [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:09 pm

Every Anime is flawed. So yes.

NOTE: And to avoid the "Lawl u hav not seen dem all". I will simply say, all the Anime I have seen are flawed.

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 00:50 GMT

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Postby Seele08 [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:09 pm

Solid Snake, I love your avatar. This forum needs more Big-O avatars, not to mention a thread of its own.

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Postby Solid-Snake [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:09 pm

Seele08 wrote:Solid Snake, I love your avatar. This forum needs more Big-O avatars, not to mention a thread of its own.

True that.

I cant seem to change my avie since I got this one. (= /Off topic.

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Postby MagicianCamille [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:09 pm

Depends, if I find that the character's likability went down hill after episode 14 or so, is that a flaw? To me, personally, it'd be a flaw. But others might just "just cuz u...", and then I'd have no response, because people that say "u" are annoying.

Also with the continuity errors that have been pointed out(that some claim are intentional for whatever reason), I can say, with 100% confidence that it's flawed.

Not a big deal. Every anime is flawed. I don't look for perfection in anime, because it doesn't exist, and I can live with that.

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 00:56 GMT

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Postby Treize X [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:09 pm

What Desslock said.

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Postby K2Grey [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:09 pm

Of course, there are numerous continuity errors and nothing human is without flaw.

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 01:33 GMT

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Postby RyoTD [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:09 pm

What MC said.

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Postby HeWhoPostsStuff [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:09 pm

"Nobody's poyfect," as they say, heh heh. Though poking fun at the flaws in Eva is perhaps my favorite part of the whole thing, so methinks it's a matter of perspective. Image

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 03:31 GMT

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Postby Mr. Tines [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:09 pm

Transparent hills, vanishing cigarettes - 'nuff said.

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 09:27 GMT

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Postby CrossboneGundam [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:09 pm

It would be absoludicrous and fanboyish (to say the least) for anyone to claim anything they like is flawless. The idea that anyone would even consider the "argument" that something is flawless is pure folly.

Of course Evangelion is flawed, just like everything else that exists.

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 09:33 GMT

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Postby MagicianCamille [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:10 pm

Except Zeta Gundam.

-Nya.

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 09:35 GMT

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Postby Solid-Snake [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:10 pm

MagicianCamille wrote:Except Zeta Gundam.

Agreed.

-Fo' Shizzle.

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 09:47 GMT

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Postby Ark [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:10 pm

I think "flaws" is too general a term because like others have said all human creations have flaws by nature.

Maybe it would be more appropriate to think about its flaws within a context or contexts.

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 09:58 GMT

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Postby Dr. Nick [ANF] » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:10 pm

Mr. Tines wrote:Transparent hills, vanishing cigarettes - 'nuff said.

Not to mention Gendo's insta-clean clothes and his office that remains undamaged even when it's destroyed. Gendo is clearly a magical schoolgirl.

Originally posted on: 29-Jan-2006, 10:05 GMT


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